Novelty helmets & Harley Riders = Death

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Personally I think there shouldn't be any helmet laws at all. Leave it up to natural selection to sort everyone out.

I agree only because I feel a little law like that is just another brick in the wall. I feel that you should have enough (what every you want to call it) of your own to know what is right and wrong. Peer pressure wear is the same as it is to no wear. Using the Law as peer pressure only makes people do stupid things to try and act out against the law.
 

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Personally I think there shouldn't be any helmet laws at all. Leave it up to natural selection to sort everyone out.

I agree 100%
Our society is declining because natural selection is not being allowed to happen. The stupid are remaining in the gene pool and continuing to pro-create because of Government interference with things like helmet and seatbelt laws.
 

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Personally I think there shouldn't be any helmet laws at all. Leave it up to natural selection to sort everyone out.

As long as the rider carries enough insurance to cover them being on life support for years I agree. Unfortunately, society pays the medical bills for a lot of this. You can never erase all risk but, those that partake in high-risk activities, must at least take some precautions. This means, IMO, wearing a "real" helmet, a seatbelt when in a car, etc. If you can make sure your medical bills won't be paid by everyone else I say "go for it".

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As long as the rider carries enough insurance to cover them being on life support for years I agree. Unfortunately, society pays the medical bills for a lot of this. You can never erase all risk but, those that partake in high-risk activities, must at least take some precautions. This means, IMO, wearing a "real" helmet, a seatbelt when in a car, etc. If you can make sure your medical bills won't be paid by everyone else I say "go for it".

Tim


I would actually like to see the cost analysis of an injured rider with a helmet vs a dead rider without one. I bet the guy with the helmet costs more.
Also, what about long term costs not directly asssociated with the helmet M/C issue. I would argue that the person who made the stupid (IMHO) descision to not wear a helmet is more likely to be costing society in many other ways. Therefore allowing him/her (don't want to be sexist) to remove themselves from the herd would be the most cost effective option. But that is purely a guess, based on my observations. YMMV.
 
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I would actually like to see the cost analysis of an injured rider with a helmet vs a dead rider without one. I bet the guy with the helmet costs more.
Also, what about long term costs not directly asssociated with the helmet M/C issue. I would argue that the person who made the stupid (IMHO) descision to not wear a helmet is more likely to be costing society in many other ways. Therefore allowing him/her (don't want to be sexist) to remove themselves from the herd would be the most cost effective option. But that is purely a guess, based on my observations. YMMV.

I don't know if there has been any cost analysis. My point was that those taking the risks should at least take a few precautions. I suspect that helmet less riders, even those who die, rack up quite a bill as the trauma ward tries every trick in the book. Even if they look to be a goner, fear of lawsuits, as well as the Hippocratic oath, ensures some mighty expensive procedures. If they have no insurance, or not enough, guess who covers the bill? We do. Stupid fear of Socialism should not keep this country from adopting some form of national health care. What they just voted for does not really count.

Tim
 

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I would actually like to see the cost analysis of an injured rider with a helmet vs a dead rider without one. I bet the guy with the helmet costs more.
Also, what about long term costs not directly asssociated with the helmet M/C issue. I would argue that the person who made the stupid (IMHO) descision to not wear a helmet is more likely to be costing society in many other ways. Therefore allowing him/her (don't want to be sexist) to remove themselves from the herd would be the most cost effective option. But that is purely a guess, based on my observations. YMMV.

I doubt it, most common type of injuries associated with motorcycle crashes are head injuries. In the OP, the Harely Rider underwent Emergency Brain Surgery. If he has no insurance, somebody is footing the bill. The Honda rider may have hit his head too, maybe not. But the point is he isn't going through brain surgery.
 

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My thoughts with the law is less is more. I don't like to have good ideas and good practices become law. I feel we have enought laws already and I admit I don't know all the laws that are on the books as it is. :spank:

As for the cost of health care, I though our prez was working on that. :ban:

I don't mean for this to become political. I appologize. :spank:
 

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One of my good friends is a harley owner and belongs to a harley club. They get together every Saturday to do a 150 mile ride and sometimes I go. I like the fact that the guys who organize it always take a different great route.
Once again I will say that I actually like Harleys I don't like the religion that most be followed when buying one.
With that said, some other brand owners in cruiser bikes join these rides and even having the "bad ass" look, most of them have a full face or flip-up helmet, real jacket and boots and some even real riding pants.
My friend adopted the harley religion and he accepted once that he will love to wear a helmet like my Shoe Multitec but he won't because won't match the look. He has a made in China harley helmet little larger than a yamaka and was not cheap at all.
I just don’t undestand
 

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Was on a cruise a couple of weeks ago and spotted this couple on a nice Harley. I wonder if they were just late for their hockey game :BLAA:

There has to be a story to go with that. Where was this and is there a helmet law in effect at that location?
Sadly they are probably better protected than those with the normal novelty helmets.
 

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There has to be a story to go with that. Where was this and is there a helmet law in effect at that location?
Sadly they are probably better protected than those with the normal novelty helmets.

This is in South Korea. There is kind of a helmet law (about a $25 fine) but I've never seen it enforced at all. Many people even ride without plates or helmets on smaller bikes. The damnest thing though is that it's harder to get a hockey helmet here than it is to get a bike helmet. :confused:
 
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