yes but a ninja 250 is tiny. this thing is the same size physically as a litre bike. thats why i posted this in the first place. i cant fit on a ninja 250 @ 6'4" i can fit on this thing comfortably
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yes but a ninja 250 is tiny. this thing is the same size physically as a litre bike. thats why i posted this in the first place. i cant fit on a ninja 250 @ 6'4" i can fit on this thing comfortably
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aren't these things made in china? no offence, but if they're built as good as the bbq's that they ship out of there, then the last of your worries is going to be about dropping it but what parts are involuntarily dropping off of it...Ii guess we'll see.
i was talking to a buddy at work last week and he was telling me someone sells them up here in the great white north of prince george.
i was talking to a buddy at work last week and he was telling me someone sells them up here in the great white north of prince george.
Hyosung has been around for like 30 years, they actually used to be the manufacturer for Suzuki engines. I would have started on one if they had become more mainstream, but they only started importing complete bikes 5 or so years ago and they were too brandy new when i found them. I also test rode their cruiser (GV650) and i was fairly impressed. After getting past some of the chrome plated plastic parts and sat in the bike, it was comfortable, and had plenty of power (powered off of the SV650 Motor "Replica") felt very stable and other than being a cruiser, which i had never ridden before, it was a nice ride. Might turn into a crusier for me someday, but not to replace the FZ, just to give it a break from time to time.
steveindenmark
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The Hyosung is made in Korea and they also do a nice looking 650 and a cruiser that is a dead ringer for a HD.
They are selling very cheaply in Denmark..well relatively.
I have not seen any tests for any of the Hyosung nor do I know anyone who has one.
My concern would be does it rust like the Chines bikes, Lifan, Regal Raptor etc. Because they are rust buckets within a year or so, especially the fixings.
I am looking forward to a comprehensive review on the Hyosung though.
I certainly would not change the FZ6 for one at the moment and there is no comparison between the Hyosung 250 and the FZ6, even as a starter bike.
Steve
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They are selling very cheaply in Denmark..well relatively.
I have not seen any tests for any of the Hyosung nor do I know anyone who has one.
My concern would be does it rust like the Chines bikes, Lifan, Regal Raptor etc. Because they are rust buckets within a year or so, especially the fixings.
I am looking forward to a comprehensive review on the Hyosung though.
I certainly would not change the FZ6 for one at the moment and there is no comparison between the Hyosung 250 and the FZ6, even as a starter bike.
Steve
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You are all kidding, right?? How can you even consider buying a chinese or korean bike that goes more then 100 kmh (60mph) That's suicidal.
All chinese bikes are crap and they'll fall appart in the first 1000-2000 miles.
Japanese is the way to go.
All chinese bikes are crap and they'll fall appart in the first 1000-2000 miles.
Japanese is the way to go.
it is nice to see that you are open minded to the progression of a country and the products built within it, I personally have seen some of these Hyosungs with 20,000 + miles on them (granted not the 100,000+ that i have seen on many Japanese and American bikes, but the Hyosungs were not dead yet either) and they have held up surprisingly well and the owners that i have talked to have nothing but good things to say about them. I agree that Japanese bikes have a higher quality reputation, but it seems that in the world the Korean markets are gaining strength and quality, Kia's and Hyundai's are actually quality cars and being taken seriously in the automobile industry and i belive that the motorcycle market is not that far behind.
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As I have said before I had the Hyosung 250GT, It was fine for what it was. Paint was a bit thin but it never failed. Only failing was the brakes, stopped you fine, but they had no bite or feel.
Cheap and cheerful.
Cheap and cheerful.
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sm00thpapa
I have heard about these for years since they are made in Korea and I was stationed there. Long term test prove they are crap as they rusted and paint chips with in a few months of new ownership. They are not reliable and you would be in the shop weekly with new problems.
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was talking to a guy i saw riding one of these. he had nothing but complaints about the bike mechanically. good thing i got the more reliable (albeit wayyy more powerful) fz6 as a first bike. through blind luck im still alive and into my 2nd year and verging on 20,000km 
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sm00thpapa
Do a search on youtube about this bike and motorcylce news does a review of this and the Ninja 250R and they even say it is a crap bike as it fell apart during the tests.
It wasn't so bad learning on the FZ6 was it? I got the FZ6R as my first bike and was scared to death to get on it as it was a 600cc. After just doing it I relized it is as easy as a 250 to ride. Thanks to Yamaha for making a great 600cc starter bike.
It wasn't so bad learning on the FZ6 was it? I got the FZ6R as my first bike and was scared to death to get on it as it was a 600cc. After just doing it I relized it is as easy as a 250 to ride. Thanks to Yamaha for making a great 600cc starter bike.
cbzdel
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When I was looking at getting an 08 250R last summer I also seen this bike, and boy was there ALOT of hate on this bike on the 250 forums, saying it just fell apart.. i want something can log miles on not a throw away bike... I am happy with my FZ6R for a beginer bike, I just rode my buddies FZ1 and I could of used that for a beginner bike, it only goes as fast as you turn the throttle...
the fz6 as a starter bike? it is very docile under 8 or 9k rpm.
when you get into its powerband it is not.
is the R6 a good starter bike? if you never revved it higher than 7k rpm yeah it would be. it is also pretty docile under 7k rpm or so.
give a noob 100hp and he wont be able to show the control that a seasoned rider will have.
95% of the time i was out riding in my first year i was obviously fine. not in over my head. but 5% of the time (and way more than that on days i had even a little adrenaline flowing) i was riding very close to my max ability and sometimes even beyond it. my throttle control and overall management of the bike was less than smooth and precise. the bike was riding me and i wasnt riding it.
a 250cc single cylinder bike can take you for a ride....but it wont be that bad. a 600cc bike with true supersport genetics and 100hp......that will be bad when you get in over your head. and when you are new to riding...you WILL get in over your head at some point. throttle control is learned by making mistakes.
i will repeat that, not to be a douche but to emphasize.
throttle control is learned by making mistakes. well, it is FAR safer to have less than optimum throttle control (as well as other control) on a weaker bike than it is on a 100hp pony with racehorse genetics. tell yourself what you will but the fz6r is not a beginner bike. i admitted to myself i messed up a little in getting the fz6 as a starter bike and made it a point to be EXTREMELY careful when pushing the limits. i did so gradually and tried to be in control most of the time when doing so. most of the time i was successful. could have ended badly the times i was in over my head though. almost ended up under the tires of a semi truck once. i did not sleep well that night.
the good thing about the fz6 and fz6r is that it keeps people off of 140hp machines as first bikes. so in that way, its MORE of a beginner bike. but its not a beginner bike.
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FZ6 Tas
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My best buddy rode a Hyosung GT650r for 2 years without a single fault, if peoples bikes are falling apart is it more likely that they are not looking after them. Hyosung has sold bikes in Australia for about 10 or so years I guess, we all know they are cheap bikes, they look cheap and that's why I don't like them but saying that they fall apart is a load of S#@t. It's the sort of thing you would buy secondhand just to get your license and sell it the first day ya could.
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When I first decided to ride in June 2008 the Ninja 250R and Hyosung GT250R were the top bikes on my list. After doing a lot of research on beginner bikes and knowledge from experienced riders, I decided on getting a 600cc bike. I looked around for awhile and came up on the FZ6R. I loved the looks and read the reviews and all stated this is a great 600cc beginner bike even Yamaha states it. So I went out and got one before the BRC. While in the BRC I rode a Ninja 250R and a Suzuki GZ250. I am 6' 230 LBS. After 8 hours of riding I new the 250's were not for me and glad I got a 600cc bike. After BRC I was nervous to death to get on my FZ6R cause I didn't know what to expect for power from the engine. After just getting on it and finding the friction zone I felt it was a very easy 600cc bike to begin on. Now that's just me and personally I would recommened the FZ6R to all new riders. If they are mature and responsible enough and respect the power of the bike the FZ6R is a great beginner bike. The upright position is a plus for beginners. I sat on a R6 and R1 and I was so crouched over and did not feel comfortable. I got the FZ6R so I have to live with it now.
My son bought a one of these 2nd hand for $2,500 with 2,400 miles on it. Sort of expensive to buy new, but cheap to buy used.
I rode it to work for a week while I was doing some mods on the FZ and I can tell you first hand it is a nice ride. The only complaint is the Chinese tires are a little squirrelly if you go into a corner a little hot and the stock brake pads squeek. But the seat is comfortable (way better than the FZ6) and the power and handling on the freeway is good.
Great 1st bike for a teenager. My son didn't need to learn on a bike that can do 130, one that can do 95 to 100 is just fine. And in a year he will probably be able to get $1,500 to $2,000 for it when he wants to upgrade to an R6 after he turns 18 and can afford his own insurance.
PS. Parts can take a while to get. This was the complaint by the Dealer.
I rode it to work for a week while I was doing some mods on the FZ and I can tell you first hand it is a nice ride. The only complaint is the Chinese tires are a little squirrelly if you go into a corner a little hot and the stock brake pads squeek. But the seat is comfortable (way better than the FZ6) and the power and handling on the freeway is good.
Great 1st bike for a teenager. My son didn't need to learn on a bike that can do 130, one that can do 95 to 100 is just fine. And in a year he will probably be able to get $1,500 to $2,000 for it when he wants to upgrade to an R6 after he turns 18 and can afford his own insurance.
PS. Parts can take a while to get. This was the complaint by the Dealer.
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Dude where in Florida are you? I want to buy it when he decides to sell it.
champion221elite
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I have no experience with Hyosung motorcycles, so I can't comment on their quality at all. My first impression is the Hyosung GT250 R is aimed squarely at the Ninja 250 market.
When comparing photos and specifications of the GT250 and Ninja 250, it seems the Ninja 250 is a better equipped bike that will hold it's value better than the GT250 will. The Ninja 250 has an excellent reputation, and years of Japanese reliability backing it up.
I would also be a bit concerned about overheating with the Hyosung GT 250 R since it's an air cooled engine. Air cooling is fine for certain applications where the motor has plenty of access to moving air. With the GT 250 R, you have a motor that's stuffed inside the frame and then covered over with plastic fairings. It just seems like the motor won't get enough air to keep it cool. The Ninja 250 however is liquid cooled and will probably last far longer as a result.
Overall, the GT250 seems like an OK bike whereas the Ninja 250 is an excellent bike. If I were in the market for a 250 cc bike, I'd put my money on a Ninja 250 and never look back.
When comparing photos and specifications of the GT250 and Ninja 250, it seems the Ninja 250 is a better equipped bike that will hold it's value better than the GT250 will. The Ninja 250 has an excellent reputation, and years of Japanese reliability backing it up.
I would also be a bit concerned about overheating with the Hyosung GT 250 R since it's an air cooled engine. Air cooling is fine for certain applications where the motor has plenty of access to moving air. With the GT 250 R, you have a motor that's stuffed inside the frame and then covered over with plastic fairings. It just seems like the motor won't get enough air to keep it cool. The Ninja 250 however is liquid cooled and will probably last far longer as a result.
Overall, the GT250 seems like an OK bike whereas the Ninja 250 is an excellent bike. If I were in the market for a 250 cc bike, I'd put my money on a Ninja 250 and never look back.
vinpub
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If the parts fail for some reason while riding, warranty is the last thing i would be thinking about......
Long warranties dont mean much if the bike is going to be in the shop most of the time!
My experince with Kia (same deal, Korean manufacturer, good price, long warranty...) has not been that good. It takes a long time to get it fixed (the local dealers have to have authorization from the Korean HQ for warranty work!!) and the same part (ventilator fan bearing) has failed three times. And now it is on its way out again. Rear windshiled wiper assembly has been replaced twice!!
In comparison, Mazda also went through the same introductory warranty deal in US. I got one (B2600 pick up) and never had to use the warranty even once in 5 years. You could tell it was a cheaper built vehicle from interior, comapred to the Hondas and Toyotas of those days, but it was built to last. It was made in Japan. Kia is still a good average car, the experince (may be in comparisn) has been a little frustrating.
So I would check the reports from their domestic markets and other parts of the world really well before deciding on it, even if it is a beginners bike. They had apparently built some Suz bikes for Suz but those designs and parts were by Suz. This one is designed and mfg by them alone. Just a caution, dont go by price and looks alone, do your reaserch, especially if you are a beginner.
My opinion, for a beginner, a used reliable known bike is better than a new cheap one. Problems could exist in both, but in one case history, reports and parts availability make me more comfortable. Besides, if I have to, I would rather drop a used bike than a new shiny one, even if it is a cheap one. Less psychological damage ....
Thats just me!
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I'll take a 08 or 09 Ninja 250R over this bike any day.
aye, fair enough.
it's not a bad bike for noobs, wayyy better than an R6 or cbr600 as a starter. If you are sensible and soft on the throttle you will probably survive without incident. It isnt a suicide machine for noobs the way a gixxer or ducati 848 would be.
but you cant really mess around with it and experiment the same way you could on a smaller less powerful bike. in "respecting" the power of the bike you end up being timid and reserved. This slows down your learning curve significantly over a bike like say...the Suzuki GS500.
