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Local rider gets rolled on.....gotta feel for him...

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IN the city where I live, he is ripping it down the highway going 265 kph. Gets clocked. Cops try chasing him. They cant catch him. They try again....and fail again. He stops for gas and they catch up to him and take his bike away and give him a court date.

The judge decides to give him a $12,000 fine and not take his lisence away.


Gotta feel for him cuz everyone has ripped it now and again on a clean long stretch of straight highly visible highway. But he did it on a particular highway that is NOT straight, NOT empty ever, and just generally not a primary highway. He is an idiot for doing it where he did. It is a highway technically, but not built for 265kph at ALL like some others we have.

but 12 grand? yikes!!
 
For me, and this may be controversial, but I think the fine is fair and right enough. I think they should have taken his license away too.

265 km/h. Think about it a second.

165 mph.

On a public highway. With other cars around. Not even on a straight highway.

That is MotoGP, even F1 speed.

The sheer amount of concentration to ride like that on a track, let alone on a public highway is *immense*, I think beyond 99.9% or riders. We are not talking about rolling on the gas for a minute or 2, we are talking riding like this for long enough to ESCAPE THE POLICE... TWICE!!

Think how much danger the other road users were in, not only from the biker himself, but from the Cops following him... If he crashed at 165mph, it is curtains for him, but what about the other road users... the pileup could have been hideous.

I'm not a speed Nazi, but really, there is a time and a place. That time and place is not on a public highway full of traffic!

It also gives all bikers a bad name, and adds to the bad reputation of bikes in some peoples minds.

Keep his license? I say burn it. Do not reissue it for about 5 years. That is too good for him.

Just my $0.2

Peace,

Sosu
 
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For me, and this may be controversial, but I think the fine is fair and right enough. I think they should have taken his license away too.

\\"Clipped\\"

Keep his license? I say burn it. Do not reissue it for about 5 years. That is too good for him.

Just my $0.2

Peace,

Sosu

I agree 100%...a license to ride is a privelage not a right.....and he certianly had NO right to put other motorist in danger!:spank::spank::spank:

I like to go fast sometimes as well...but there is a time and a place...that guy clearly is not smart enough to tell the difference.:rolleyes:
 
Most speed limits I feel are noisome, if not onerous. But hyper-speeding goes too far in the opposite direction. Half the videos on youtube fall into that same category. I wish that both riders and cops would use more discretion. Cops should back off on meaningless infractions and bikers should be more responsible. Cops are bound by the laws they are sworn to enforce, but some enforce them vindictively. The bikers that need that kind of speed really should get to a track, or at the very least, pick a safe, deserted time and place to do their speeding.
 
Not "feeling for him" here. We're adults and have to live with our decisions, whether it's not wearing gear, drinking and driving, or riding at excessive speed. He was riding irresponsibly and got caught.
 
Actually, the guy is lucky he did not get sentenced to jail time. 165 mph goes way beyond reckless driving to reckless public endangerment.

I know that here in florida you can be jailed by the police for going more than 20 mph over the limit, if you piss the cop off.

The guy actually got off easy, my guess is the Judge figured rather than ruin the guy by making him loose his job with jail time or public transportation, he figured I'll hit him good in the wallet, after all, in the end, no one fortunately was hurt by his stupidity.
 
I have a friend who just got his bike, a Honda CBR600, impounded for 30 days, and the cop said he was going to recommend that his licence get revoked or suspended. My friend was just out having a little fun on a nice windy road thats fun to ride on when he got cut off by a car. He took evasive manuvers to get around it and he wound up on the wrong side of the road going about 90 as he passed this cop. When he got pulled over, the cop wouldn't even listen to his story. He wrote him up for wreckless driving, took his bike and left him on the side of the road with no bike. Sure, he was speeding, but he wasn't endangering anyone. Some cops are jerks, while others are pretty nice. I think he just got a jerky cop. 30 days seems a little harsh.
 
I have a friend who just got his bike, a Honda CBR600, impounded for 30 days, and the cop said he was going to recommend that his licence get revoked or suspended. My friend was just out having a little fun on a nice windy road thats fun to ride on when he got cut off by a car. He took evasive manuvers to get around it and he wound up on the wrong side of the road going about 90 as he passed this cop. When he got pulled over, the cop wouldn't even listen to his story. He wrote him up for wreckless driving, took his bike and left him on the side of the road with no bike. Sure, he was speeding, but he wasn't endangering anyone. Some cops are jerks, while others are pretty nice. I think he just got a jerky cop. 30 days seems a little harsh.

You gotta be kidding... you're upset because the BIKE got jail time? :spank:

He made a very bad decision and is lucky to be alive. Suspension and fine are very appropriate here. I'd even go so far as to support a little pokey time for this guy. Let him keep the bike company in the slammer for the 30.

Hotei
 
As said we all give it to it every once and a while and we take the risk. Every time i do it i hope like hell i dont get caught, but if i do i would deserve what ever i got given. Its the chose we make as adults.
 
"Stupid is as stupid does..." No feelings at all for the guy. Broke the law, pay the price. Sure, I might cut loose once in a while but no where NEAR that level of a$$hattery! I'd say he's lucky that's ALL he gets!
 
IN the city where I live, he is ripping it down the highway going 265 kph. Gets clocked. Cops try chasing him. They cant catch him. They try again....and fail again. He stops for gas and they catch up to him and take his bike away and give him a court date.

The judge decides to give him a $12,000 fine and not take his lisence away.


Gotta feel for him cuz everyone has ripped it now and again on a clean long stretch of straight highly visible highway. But he did it on a particular highway that is NOT straight, NOT empty ever, and just generally not a primary highway. He is an idiot for doing it where he did. It is a highway technically, but not built for 265kph at ALL like some others we have.

but 12 grand? yikes!!
He should had went to jail also for no care for other ppls lives. If you think about it thats worse than a drunk driver. He isn't even intoxicated and putting ppls lives in danger.
 
There are ALOT of oil-rich people in that neck of the woods I hear.....

Speeding biker pays $12,000 fine rather than lose licence
Motorcyclist caught travelling 263 km/h

Erika Beauchesne
The Edmonton Journal; with files from Canwest News Service


Saturday, August 30, 2008


EDMONTON - A $12,000 speeding fine was handed to an Alberta motorcyclist caught roaring along Highway 16 at 263 km/h, more than twice the posted speed limit.

The rider, a Hinton resident, struck a deal with the Crown prosecutor that allowed him to keep his licence in exchange for the high fine, said RCMP Sgt. Ron Lyons.

A police officer spotted the man on May 1 driving a Honda motorcycle along a stretch of Highway 16 between Edson and Hinton, where the speed limit is 110 km/h.

The officer gave chase but was unable to catch up, Lyons said. The same officer later spotted the motorcycle in Hinton.

The Edson Traffic Court handed down the massive fine Aug. 27.

"I've never seen a fine like that before," he said. "A fine of $1,000 is usually a lot." Lyons said the huge fine is an effective way to dissuade speeders.

"It makes you think of the risk and rewards. What is the financial cost if I get caught? Twelve thousand dollars would make a significant impact on your lifestyle and make you gauge the consequences." But Moin Yahya, an assistant professor of law at the University of Alberta, said it depends on the speeder's income.

"If they're trying to send a message of deterrence, can you really deter a rich person with a fine? Twelve thousand dollars for someone who makes a lot of money -- that's not a big deal." Yahya said it raises an interesting argument that socio-legal scholars have often debated.

"Some say you don't use jail to deter poor people, you use fines. But there's others who say jail is more of a deterrent for rich people," he said.

"If there's an equality issue, that's another concern -- are people buying their way out of a licence suspension?" In Alberta, drivers caught going 51 km/h or more over the posted speed limit can lose their licences.

The settlement was negotiated at the Edson Traffic Court by Crown prosecutor Vern Colley, who earlier this year also worked out an $8,500 fine for a Prince George, B.C., man caught driving his car at 206 km/h in the same area.

Colley confirmed Friday he worked out deals for both high fines but refused to comment further, saying he needed to consult with his boss.

Alberta Justice did not return calls for comment.

Hinton is about 280 kilometres west of Edmonton.
 
No sympathy here either, there is no way that speed can ever be safe on a busy highway. He's covering the length of a football field in a little over a second. No way he can react to anything around him in time to avoid disaster he'd need binoculars to see trouble far enough away to avoid it!

Should've lost his licence and the bike!
 
Cops around our area are more likely to not pull over a motorcycle for doing 10-15 over the posted speed limit....however, they would eat up someone doing over 120, which according to my Law professor, cannot even be read by speed or radar guns.
 
I have a friend who just got his bike, a Honda CBR600, impounded for 30 days, and the cop said he was going to recommend that his licence get revoked or suspended. My friend was just out having a little fun on a nice windy road thats fun to ride on when he got cut off by a car. He took evasive manuvers to get around it and he wound up on the wrong side of the road going about 90 as he passed this cop. When he got pulled over, the cop wouldn't even listen to his story. He wrote him up for wreckless driving, took his bike and left him on the side of the road with no bike. Sure, he was speeding, but he wasn't endangering anyone. Some cops are jerks, while others are pretty nice. I think he just got a jerky cop. 30 days seems a little harsh.

OK. I owe everyone on here an apology, especially to any of the "cops" who may have read this. I just found out some new info from my friend. He neglected to tell me that when he passed up the cop, he did it on one wheel. So, to everyone on here, I'm sorry for feeling a little angry about no one having any sympathy for my friend. And I'm especially sorry to the cops for me calling them jerks, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I guess if I were in your shoes, my attitude would be a little different. And as for my friend, I'm sorry his bike got taken away, but now I understand why and I even kinda side with the "not so jerky" cop that pulled him over. So again......I'm sorry, everyone.
 
Nick, good on you for being willing to man-up and apologize.

I had to go to traffic school a few years back and the one thing that stuck in my mind was the definition of "reckless driving": speed in excess of 25mph over the posted speed. At least that's how my steadily diminishing grey matter remembers it...

So I always watch my speed and keep it under that. On most public roads you can have a fair amount of fun just staying within that range. There are other aspects besides just raw speed that can be practiced while riding at a reasonable speed, such as staying smooth.

As far as the op, I have no sympathy. I hope that I don't come off sounding too much like a hypocrite given what I've written above and I'm sure it's been said and beaten to death already: the roads aren't a race track. If he wanted to go *that* fast, he could've and should've paid to go ride around on a track. I'm not hatin' here, just voicing my thoughts.

When I see folks ripping by on public roads I just think about friends of mine with kiddos riding in the car. I never want to hear about a rider endangering or, shudder to think, hitting them.
 
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