Bike back from the shop, and i'm pissed- $89 for a tire change...

[Tailgate]

Andz: no charge for the air? I mean, you know, even petrol stations charge nowadays for air and/or water. I think these places doing the tire changes should charge, say, $5.95 per tire for "air." Another charge could be the installation of the valve "cap." You know, that small rubber cap that you screw on the valve stem after air is injected. That should be another $2.95 or so labor charge. Also, maybe another charge for the "rollout." You know, somebody has to roll out the bike/tire from the tire installation area. That should be another $2.95 or so, right? Maybe a some kind of "park" charge to boot. You know, if you don't pick up your wheels/bike within 60 minutes, then you start paying "excess parking" charges of, say, $.50 per hour.

 

[04fizzer]

Husband and wife shop? Are the initials CE? That's where I've gotten all my stuff. I'm actually quite surprised that's how much it cost you.

 

[Geoff]

Post this thread on their website or in their contact email, i'm sure they will get the point

 

[LCR]

Zip ties. FTW.

Have a friend that uses them to change tires. Theres a few how-to floating around the web I'll try and find the write up he did where he made video of it.

 

[04fizzer]

After reading through, it doesn't sound like you went to CE, but should have. What shop did you go to, which SHOULD you have gone to? (you can PM me if you don't want to spill their name in public)

 

[LCR]

Dismount: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZTSdokVEIs&feature=player_embedded]How to dismount motorcycle tire with zipties - YouTube[/ame]

Mount: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6WPzRRJLpA&feature=player_embedded#
He reccomends using 5 ties to mount he just wanted to see if it could be done with 4

And the zipties are like $2 a pack at HF

 

[04fizzer]

Dismount: How to dismount motorcycle tire with zipties - YouTube

Mount: How to mount motorcycle tire with zipties - YouTube
He reccomends using 5 ties to mount he just wanted to see if it could be done with 4

And the zipties are like $2 a pack at HF

You should tell him that a set of tire irons would make that a LOT easier.

 

[LCR]

He has them, I think. His main goal of the videos was to show that it could be done with ONLY zipties. and at $2 a pack its a very cheap tire change.

 

[04fizzer]

He has them, I think. His main goal of the videos was to show that it could be done with ONLY zipties. and at $2 a pack its a very cheap tire change.

If that's the case, he should show HOW he got the zip ties on there in the first place.

 

[LCR]

If that's the case, he should show HOW he got the zip ties on there in the first place.

BOOM:

Ok guys, I needed to do the rear on the CBR and since I'm a cheap bastard I like to do tire changes myself. This rear took me all of 15 minutes to do not including balancing, which took an extra 5 minutes.

DISMOUNT:

To break the bead all one needs is a long piece of 2x4 and a short piece of 2x4 and a point to lever the long piece off of...I use the bumper of my van as it's far enough off the ground to facilitate this. Step on the opposite side of the wood and push down with a little bit of force...and boom...bead is broken.



To get the tire off I use these zip ties from Harbor Freight. One pack will do both dismount and mount for only $1.99:

24" Heavy Duty Cable Ties, 10 Pack

Fish them through the bead like so...once through to the other side ou may need some needle nose pliers to get it out for the first couple, but after that they should all be really easy to fish through.





After the zip ties are all in place the tire will look like this:



Just get some ass behind it and the tire will come off...dismount with NO TOOLS REQUIRED. If you don't have the hand/arm strength to pull the tire off like this (because admittedly it was a little tough) a large screw driver or small 5 dollar tire iron will make life a bit easier. But I want to stress how easy and possible it is to do this without tools.

MOUNT:

To mount the tire you basically do the opposite of the dismount...I know that's simplifying it a bit, but it's not much different. Since I used 6 zip ties to get the tire off I wanted to see if I could use only 4 zip ties to put the new tire on so I arranged them in a cross and proceeded to put the tire on. I think it is much easier to do with 5 zip ties because only 4 leaves gaps in certain places where the beads should be touching. And like I say, be liberal with the windex/soapy water because it DOES make a difference in how easy the tire slides on.

 

[CoolATIGuy]

Mine was $60 total (front + rear), rims still on bike, just rolled it in and let them work their magic...

 

[08fz6]

Mine was $60 total (front + rear), rims still on bike, just rolled it in and let them work their magic...

Where abouts in the USA we talking?

 

[DefyInertia]

In San Francisco, one of the most expensive places in the country, there are the big shops with nice parking garages and tons of overhead that do a ****ty job and charge rediculous prices, there is cyclegear that blows, and then there are some regular shops. One of the preferred places is a high end KTM and Aprilla dealer called Scuderia West. They charge $30 per wheel off the bike.

There is a one man tire changing business, mototireguy.com, who works out of his garage in the city (he is a quasi retired mechanic) and charges $18 per wheel off the bike plus $2 if you want him to dispose of the spent tires. He has been around for a few years, is an experienced and respected local rider, and all around has a great rep.

$89 for one tire is freaking silly (always good to ask the price beforehand, FWIW); the service is simply not worth that much...I don't care how you look at it, it's not worth that much. All this talk about the shop needs to charge this and that because they have to pay their property taxes is a joke. If you can't run a business (because of your location or otherwise), don't try.

Dual sport and dirt tires are much easier to change than street tires.

Land of the free, huh.

I paid $215 on Friday for a Bridgestone BT-010 180/55-17, fitted, balanced, with a new steel angle valve and chain clean and lube into the bargain.

Yes.

paid $190 shipped to my door for a SET of fresh Dunlop Q2s and another $36 to have them mounted by a pro down the street from my house.

 

[08fz6]

. All this talk about the shop needs to charge this and that because they have to pay their property taxes is a joke. If you can't run a business (because of your location or otherwise), don't try.

So your saying what for the places that have been there since the 80's or even the 70's just give up something they have worked their entire life to get to where they are at instead of raising prices? Many of the business's that are charging high prices are not new. It is the ones that are new that charge the cheap prices and realize that they can't make it on giving their friends really cheap prices. As far as the man you mention you also mention he is pretty much retired. He does it for the sake of helping people out not making a living.

for those of you that don't understand the price. I have lived first hand with a father who ran a multimillion dollar business in a Podunk town to where he now sits and can barely pay his taxes. He went from affording a brand new corvette, 15 employee's, 4 brand new F-350 Pickup Trucks, Brand new roll back, 5th wheel trailer with 2 358 dirt modified racecar's and living in a $750,000 house to 1 employee repair shop and a 05 F250 with a small enclosed trailer, and drives my step brothers old 01 Ford Focus as a DD. He still has his house but that was because it was paid off. I have lived a life that many have dreamed of and now I travel the the USA dealing with college kids for a living. My dreams were crushed due to a pathetic excuse for a government, banks and this lovely economy. He could have just gave up as DefyInertia says. But he has too much pride for that and is still afloat. Where half of the dealerships in upstate/central NY closed their doors. Many home owners just walked away from their mortgages because they owed more than they were worth. They just gave up and didn't try. They helped contribute to the current situation we are in. Gas prices are the root of many problems as well. Do you try to haggle with a restaurant because you think it took them longer than it should have to get you your steak, the gas station attendant the price you paid for your gas because 1 state away they are paying 20 cents more a gallon, no everyone attacks the low man on the pole. Yet they just pay everything else and don't think twice about it. It is the way it is. But once again I live in NY, I can't speak for having motorcycle tires changed in other states, I haven't had to deal with it. I only mention what I see and reason to why you are paying what you are paying. Is it right everyone has their own thoughts on things.....

 

[dxh24]

I agree with about 1/2 of that. But how is it this a55hole gets to charge 89 bucks when the other small shop i shoulve gone to can charge 30?

 

[ohgood]

BOOM:

Ok guys, I needed to do the rear on the CBR and since I'm a cheap bastard I like to do tire changes myself. This rear took me all of 15 minutes to do not including balancing, which took an extra 5 minutes.

DISMOUNT:

To break the bead all one needs is a long piece of 2x4 and a short piece of 2x4 and a point to lever the long piece off of...I use the bumper of my van as it's far enough off the ground to facilitate this. Step on the opposite side of the wood and push down with a little bit of force...and boom...bead is broken.



To get the tire off I use these zip ties from Harbor Freight. One pack will do both dismount and mount for only $1.99:

24" Heavy Duty Cable Ties, 10 Pack

Fish them through the bead like so...once through to the other side ou may need some needle nose pliers to get it out for the first couple, but after that they should all be really easy to fish through.





After the zip ties are all in place the tire will look like this:



Just get some ass behind it and the tire will come off...dismount with NO TOOLS REQUIRED. If you don't have the hand/arm strength to pull the tire off like this (because admittedly it was a little tough) a large screw driver or small 5 dollar tire iron will make life a bit easier. But I want to stress how easy and possible it is to do this without tools.

MOUNT:

To mount the tire you basically do the opposite of the dismount...I know that's simplifying it a bit, but it's not much different. Since I used 6 zip ties to get the tire off I wanted to see if I could use only 4 zip ties to put the new tire on so I arranged them in a cross and proceeded to put the tire on. I think it is much easier to do with 5 zip ties because only 4 leaves gaps in certain places where the beads should be touching. And like I say, be liberal with the windex/soapy water because it DOES make a difference in how easy the tire slides on.

thanks for this one - i'll be trying this out next time i change a tire. excellent idea ! needs a stickify ! :rockon:

 

[08fz6]

I agree with about 1/2 of that. But how is it this a55hole gets to charge 89 bucks when the other small shop i shoulve gone to can charge 30?

I really don't have the answer to that, if they both are doing well, I would say the $30 place is making it back somewhere else. If the other shop cosmetically isn't as nice a little falling apart etc, that would be why. Also what is the difference in tools, equipment inside etc?

 

[Kaisersoze]

. All this talk about the shop needs to charge this and that because they have to pay their property taxes is a joke. If you can't run a business (because of your location or otherwise), don't try.

So your saying what for the places that have been there since the 80's or even the 70's just give up something they have worked their entire life to get to where they are at instead of raising prices? Many of the business's that are charging high prices are not new. It is the ones that are new that charge the cheap prices and realize that they can't make it on giving their friends really cheap prices. As far as the man you mention you also mention he is pretty much retired. He does it for the sake of helping people out not making a living.

for those of you that don't understand the price. I have lived first hand with a father who ran a multimillion dollar business in a Podunk town to where he now sits and can barely pay his taxes. He went from affording a brand new corvette, 15 employee's, 4 brand new F-350 Pickup Trucks, Brand new roll back, 5th wheel trailer with 2 358 dirt modified racecar's and living in a $750,000 house to 1 employee repair shop and a 05 F250 with a small enclosed trailer, and drives my step brothers old 01 Ford Focus as a DD. He still has his house but that was because it was paid off. I have lived a life that many have dreamed of and now I travel the the USA dealing with college kids for a living. My dreams were crushed due to a pathetic excuse for a government, banks and this lovely economy. He could have just gave up as DefyInertia says. But he has too much pride for that and is still afloat. Where half of the dealerships in upstate/central NY closed their doors. Many home owners just walked away from their mortgages because they owed more than they were worth. They just gave up and didn't try. They helped contribute to the current situation we are in. Gas prices are the root of many problems as well. Do you try to haggle with a restaurant because you think it took them longer than it should have to get you your steak, the gas station attendant the price you paid for your gas because 1 state away they are paying 20 cents more a gallon, no everyone attacks the low man on the pole. Yet they just pay everything else and don't think twice about it. It is the way it is. But once again I live in NY, I can't speak for having motorcycle tires changed in other states, I haven't had to deal with it. I only mention what I see and reason to why you are paying what you are paying. Is it right everyone has their own thoughts on things.....

I am sorry to hear about your fathers turn of events in regards to the shop. However, I cant help but feel likes something is missing from that story. Its a long road from point A in that story to point B. Anyway, I sympathize and hope it works out for the best.

 

[ChevyFazer]

Bottom line only people who are greedy charge more $50 for a motorcycle tire change i dont care how many tools they have, how nice of a shop they own, or anything else thats called overhead and at the absolute highest is 20% of the total cost where most places charge 10% for overhead. Theres no other way around it other than greed

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[Andz]

Andz: no charge for the air? I mean, you know, even petrol stations charge nowadays for air and/or water. I think these places doing the tire changes should charge, say, $5.95 per tire for "air." Another charge could be the installation of the valve "cap." You know, that small rubber cap that you screw on the valve stem after air is injected. That should be another $2.95 or so labor charge. Also, maybe another charge for the "rollout." You know, somebody has to roll out the bike/tire from the tire installation area. That should be another $2.95 or so, right? Maybe a some kind of "park" charge to boot. You know, if you don't pick up your wheels/bike within 60 minutes, then you start paying "excess parking" charges of, say, $.50 per hour.

Call me blonde but I don't get the point you are trying to make, if there even is one.