Trackday Rant, Video, and Pictures

lonesoldier84

SuperFlanker Moderator
Moderator
Premium Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,463
Reaction score
96
Points
0
Location
Surrey, UK
Visit site
This is going to be a big fat ramble but oh well.....here goes....

Hello, fine forum people. My name....is Lone. :) And I am here to encourage everyone to become increasingly involved in either trackdays or racing.


I am choosing to do so because from time to time I read things in my first few years of riding which helped me as a rider. I was enriched by reading
and hearing things from people further down the road than I. So, I hope that a handful of you might take inspiration from this and further enrich your
own riding lives. Now, with that being said, I happily admit to still being a relative novice in the grand scheme of things.

It takes encouragement sometimes to push yourself a little bit more and to make some additional sacrifices. I see the sacrifices others have made in
their lives and how much enjoyment they have been rewarded with as a result. So, for that reason, I am all but set on throwing myself onto a novice
race grid next season.

And that brings me to this little rant/ramble. You've all made sacrifices in initially purchasing your motorcycles. But look at the machine you've purchased.
The memberships of CBR, R1, R6, ZX6R, etc forums have entire sub-forums fully fleshed out with reams and reams of track and racing posts. So, why does
the humble FZ6 not have half as much track and racing content? We widely advertise our machines to be 85% sport 15% touring or some approximation
thereabouts. Why then does the sport aspect get ignored so much?

Sure, you can have a spirited ride around town. And sure, you can get in some grin-inducing fun in the twisties on road trips. But until you really start throwing
that little machine down at the pavement, you are selling yourself short. You have purchased something which can give you so much more than what you're taking
from it. If you get what it can give you, you won't care so much about the scratches and battle-damage as you will about how "frickin awesome" you were doing until
you did take a spill. And that's if you don't just decide to buy a random trackbike.....they are stupendously cheap. Look into it....anyway....back on topic.

When I got into riding, I got to work immediately with endless hours of parking lot practice, twist of the wrist bedtime readings, and doing the same clover on-ramps
for hours (which have given me my right-turn specialty btw :p).

I did a level 1 performance riding school in my second year and developed immensely as a rider on that one day. I was able to apply what I learned that day and increase
TREMENDOUSLY my enjoyment of the twisty roads I would travel for the next couple years. Slightly heightened skill meant I was able to spend more time enjoying a
spirited ride safely and less time white-knuckle praying.

Now this is a point where I suspect many of our members are. They have learned the ropes, and enjoy themselves. But they have stopped short of pushing that last
little bit and haven't yet explored the REALLY good stuff. :p

So that's the reason I'm writing this....to help nudge them over the edge. :)

I spent all of last year like that. It was over the winter I took a look at that riding season and shook my head. So, for this past season, I decided to take up the same
determination I had in my first few years to improve my riding. I had become too complacent and that had to change.

I bought an R1, and immediately proceeded to scare the piss out of myself for the month or so I had it. This was not the right bike to get more out of my riding with.
It is not a machine that is conducive to learning....even four years in haha.

So, armed with a sporty machine that I no longer was concerned about scratching (my partially destroyed FZ6), I decided I had the right tool for the job and got to
work. Getting laid off was a kick-in-the-pants to my riding budget but I still managed to get in 5 trackdays and a level 2 race school.

Of those, I crashed in three, haha. But I'm retarded....more often than not people won't crash. The rest of them though, I didn't and by the final two sessions in the
last one I was knee-dragging comfortably and putting down laptimes that would put me at the tail end of the middle of the pack of a novice race grid. With some
more work next year on better lines and braking, I know I can get myself closer to the front.

And here I finally get to my point. I had to give the backstory just so it is clear where I am coming from.

This.....is something I should have done long, long ago and that is why I am trying to light in fire in others out there.

You guys bought sporty bikes because you enjoy sport-riding. Getting involved full-on in racing and at the very least HEAVILY in trackdays is much cheaper than you think.
Take an hour before the trackday to pull off your lights and plastics and you won't be so bothered about sliding it down the asphalt.

Don't be so concerned with keeping her mint. She's a bike.....use her. Use her like the sloppy girl that she is. She will love every second of it. If you had a dirtbike that
never saw mud it would be a bit shameful. Well then by that token having a bike with an R6 motor and relatively sporty configuration should see a lot of track time and
everything that goes with it.

As for racing, I have spoken with guys this year that bought full-on trackbikes kitted with spare tires and levers and pegs etc for $1200.....one guy even bought a fully
kitted ZX6R trackbike for $700....with spare rubber. Seriously...there is no excuse not to at least be PLANNING to get more involved at some point.

So, do what you need to do. Talk to a marriage counsellor or divorce attorney if you have to. Some things just have to be done. It is worth any sacrifice.

It is extremely addictive and once you get relatively well-involved with it, you will make huge sacrifices to keep the ball rolling. And what's more, you will be immensely
happy to do so. It really is something truly spectacular and I for one would love to see more of the members here taking their sportbikes and riding them where they
were meant to be ridden.

Hell, 15 years ago world-calibre racers would have killed to have a bike like ours to race on.

And the worst case scenario is you learn reams of lessons that WILL save your bacon on the road. Getting spooked but keeping your cool is a big one....after a couple
of guys pass you on the brakes when you weren't expecting it on a racetrack, you learn very quickly how to unclench your sphincter and throw into the corner. That is
GOOD muscle memory. When you get spooked on the road, you'll be that much quicker and smoother in loosening up and throwing into the corner.

Anyway, I've rambled enough. With all of that said, I'm going to leave you with some media. I don't have any footage from my final sessions, but that's when I started
to chase guys that had previously been much faster than me and was keeping up. I clocked some laptimes I was VERY pleased with.

Anyway, I'll just leave it at that.

Good riding season this year....all thing's considered.

(video won't work on phones....chase camera has me ahead of it, that camera is mounted on a CBR 954)

Watch in high def full-screen ideally.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSkO0EjmVRM]Trackday Compilation 2011 - YouTube[/ame]


IMG_7402.jpg





IMG_7621.jpg





IMG_7529.jpg




:BLAA:
 

chomorro

Junior Member
Joined
Jul 12, 2011
Messages
696
Reaction score
4
Points
0
Location
San Diego
Visit site
Nice, what did the bike and you look like after the crash??

I want to do a class that will teach me cornering one day :)
 

lonesoldier84

SuperFlanker Moderator
Moderator
Premium Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,463
Reaction score
96
Points
0
Location
Surrey, UK
Visit site
Nice, what did the bike and you look like after the crash??

I want to do a class that will teach me cornering one day :)

Exactly like I do and it does in the pictures haha.

Crashing is really not bad at all in a controlled environment.

And there's nothing holding you back but yourself! Just sacrifice elsewhere and soon you'll have enough set aside to take that class. It really is all just about sacrifice and really deciding you want to do it.

:)
 

Erci

Howie Mandel's evil twin
Moderator
Elite Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2009
Messages
7,229
Reaction score
126
Points
63
Location
Pittsford, VT
Visit site
Great post, Lone!

Love the video and last pic is awesome! :thumbup:

I hope I'll be able to spend some time on the track next year.
 

McLovin

plain evil
Joined
Feb 23, 2009
Messages
1,011
Reaction score
12
Points
38
Location
los angel
Visit site
Thanks for the post. I am definitely one of those people you are talking about.

I've been thinking about doing Keith Code's track school for the last 3 years. I thought about doing a beginners track day somewhere nearby but the whole event is like a film production. I never got to it. Have you upgraded the oil and/or springs in your forks? I feel like I really need to do that before I get into any track riding etc.
 

greg

UK Luchador
Moderator
Joined
Aug 3, 2010
Messages
1,771
Reaction score
12
Points
0
Location
Stockport, UK
Visit site
i've done a track day twice on my fz6, but now i'd like to do one on a proper sports bike

main reasons for me
1) lack of ground clearance (i don't really fancy scraping pegs or side stand)
2) i don't want to wreck my bike
3) renting a bike isn't that much more expensive when you factor in consumables
 

lonesoldier84

SuperFlanker Moderator
Moderator
Premium Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2008
Messages
4,463
Reaction score
96
Points
0
Location
Surrey, UK
Visit site
Great post, Lone!

Love the video and last pic is awesome! :thumbup:

I hope I'll be able to spend some time on the track next year.

And I hope to see some pictures/footage!

Thanks for the post. I am definitely one of those people you are talking about.

I've been thinking about doing Keith Code's track school for the last 3 years. I thought about doing a beginners track day somewhere nearby but the whole event is like a film production. I never got to it. Have you upgraded the oil and/or springs in your forks? I feel like I really need to do that before I get into any track riding etc.

Smoothness and skill will be factors long before oil/springs in your forks will be.

A better course of action would be to do a trackday and if you actually notice anything, then get some work done. That is unless you've never ever had it changed but anytime you change the fork seals they would have changed the oil too. And usually people will always get their fork seals done every couple years at the least due to regular service intervals.

You don't need to go balls-to-the-wall on your first time out. Just get out there! Take it easy and gradually push yourself a bit more each time. Most people don't crash.....I'm just "special" haha.

i've done a track day twice on my fz6, but now i'd like to do one on a proper sports bike

main reasons for me
1) lack of ground clearance (i don't really fancy scraping pegs or side stand)
2) i don't want to wreck my bike
3) renting a bike isn't that much more expensive when you factor in consumables

1) watch ~0:21 in the top right corner video of my posted video there....that was my peg catching a gouge in the track surface haha

2) fair enough.

A start?

HONDA CBR CBR600 TRACK OR RACE BIKE

Yamaha THUNDERCAT 600 for sale in Suffolk, cheap Yamaha THUNDERCAT 600 for sale

I dunno, trackbikes are usually cheap because many times they've been written off for insurance and can't be sold for road use. I know a guy selling a 2010 CBR 600 for all of $2000. And it's still pretty mint somehow.

But I've routinely heard of people getting trackbikes for under $1000 (CDN).

3) Yeah, but when it's your bike you can crash it all you want... :)
 

DefyInertia

Former '04 FZ6 Rider
Joined
Aug 14, 2007
Messages
3,701
Reaction score
66
Points
0
Location
San Francisco, CA
Visit site
Building your skills at the track = cheap insurance.

All the fun to be had is just the icing on the skill building cake....or vice versa....the save your life/bank account skill building is the icing on the go have a freaking blast at the track cake.

Have not been out since May 2009...need to make it happen ASAP. Selling the miata...buying another truck...will be hitting the track several times in 2012 to make up for lost time (and so I can keep up with Wavex....lol).
 

mxgolf

Motoup
Elite Member
Joined
Jul 22, 2008
Messages
1,677
Reaction score
16
Points
38
Location
Beaverton Oregon USA
Visit site
Thanks Lone, Looks like tons of fun and you put up an pretty convincing argument. Now I will be thinking of track riding all winter! :D
 

spock

Junior Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2009
Messages
455
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Medellín, Colombia
Visit site
Congrats Lone

cool video and pictures, and thanks a lot for sharing your experiences.

I envy you guys ... I would love to get riding skills on a track, unfortunately the only one on the country is pretty far away from me :(, so it is not practical at all for me in terms of time and money.
 

ChevyFazer

Redneck MacGyver
Joined
Jun 12, 2011
Messages
3,309
Reaction score
27
Points
0
Location
ATL
Visit site
This is going to be a big fat ramble but oh well.....here goes....

Hello, fine forum people. My name....is Lone. :) And I am here to encourage everyone to become increasingly involved in either trackdays or racing.


I am choosing to do so because from time to time I read things in my first few years of riding which helped me as a rider. I was enriched by reading
and hearing things from people further down the road than I. So, I hope that a handful of you might take inspiration from this and further enrich your
own riding lives. Now, with that being said, I happily admit to still being a relative novice in the grand scheme of things.

It takes encouragement sometimes to push yourself a little bit more and to make some additional sacrifices. I see the sacrifices others have made in
their lives and how much enjoyment they have been rewarded with as a result. So, for that reason, I am all but set on throwing myself onto a novice
race grid next season.

And that brings me to this little rant/ramble. You've all made sacrifices in initially purchasing your motorcycles. But look at the machine you've purchased.
The memberships of CBR, R1, R6, ZX6R, etc forums have entire sub-forums fully fleshed out with reams and reams of track and racing posts. So, why does
the humble FZ6 not have half as much track and racing content? We widely advertise our machines to be 85% sport 15% touring or some approximation
thereabouts. Why then does the sport aspect get ignored so much?

Sure, you can have a spirited ride around town. And sure, you can get in some grin-inducing fun in the twisties on road trips. But until you really start throwing
that little machine down at the pavement, you are selling yourself short. You have purchased something which can give you so much more than what you're taking
from it. If you get what it can give you, you won't care so much about the scratches and battle-damage as you will about how "frickin awesome" you were doing until
you did take a spill. And that's if you don't just decide to buy a random trackbike.....they are stupendously cheap. Look into it....anyway....back on topic.

When I got into riding, I got to work immediately with endless hours of parking lot practice, twist of the wrist bedtime readings, and doing the same clover on-ramps
for hours (which have given me my right-turn specialty btw :p).

I did a level 1 performance riding school in my second year and developed immensely as a rider on that one day. I was able to apply what I learned that day and increase
TREMENDOUSLY my enjoyment of the twisty roads I would travel for the next couple years. Slightly heightened skill meant I was able to spend more time enjoying a
spirited ride safely and less time white-knuckle praying.

Now this is a point where I suspect many of our members are. They have learned the ropes, and enjoy themselves. But they have stopped short of pushing that last
little bit and haven't yet explored the REALLY good stuff. :p

So that's the reason I'm writing this....to help nudge them over the edge. :)

I spent all of last year like that. It was over the winter I took a look at that riding season and shook my head. So, for this past season, I decided to take up the same
determination I had in my first few years to improve my riding. I had become too complacent and that had to change.

I bought an R1, and immediately proceeded to scare the piss out of myself for the month or so I had it. This was not the right bike to get more out of my riding with.
It is not a machine that is conducive to learning....even four years in haha.

So, armed with a sporty machine that I no longer was concerned about scratching (my partially destroyed FZ6), I decided I had the right tool for the job and got to
work. Getting laid off was a kick-in-the-pants to my riding budget but I still managed to get in 5 trackdays and a level 2 race school.

Of those, I crashed in three, haha. But I'm retarded....more often than not people won't crash. The rest of them though, I didn't and by the final two sessions in the
last one I was knee-dragging comfortably and putting down laptimes that would put me at the tail end of the middle of the pack of a novice race grid. With some
more work next year on better lines and braking, I know I can get myself closer to the front.

And here I finally get to my point. I had to give the backstory just so it is clear where I am coming from.

This.....is something I should have done long, long ago and that is why I am trying to light in fire in others out there.

You guys bought sporty bikes because you enjoy sport-riding. Getting involved full-on in racing and at the very least HEAVILY in trackdays is much cheaper than you think.
Take an hour before the trackday to pull off your lights and plastics and you won't be so bothered about sliding it down the asphalt.

Don't be so concerned with keeping her mint. She's a bike.....use her. Use her like the sloppy girl that she is. She will love every second of it. If you had a dirtbike that
never saw mud it would be a bit shameful. Well then by that token having a bike with an R6 motor and relatively sporty configuration should see a lot of track time and
everything that goes with it.

As for racing, I have spoken with guys this year that bought full-on trackbikes kitted with spare tires and levers and pegs etc for $1200.....one guy even bought a fully
kitted ZX6R trackbike for $700....with spare rubber. Seriously...there is no excuse not to at least be PLANNING to get more involved at some point.

So, do what you need to do. Talk to a marriage counsellor or divorce attorney if you have to. Some things just have to be done. It is worth any sacrifice.

It is extremely addictive and once you get relatively well-involved with it, you will make huge sacrifices to keep the ball rolling. And what's more, you will be immensely
happy to do so. It really is something truly spectacular and I for one would love to see more of the members here taking their sportbikes and riding them where they
were meant to be ridden.

Hell, 15 years ago world-calibre racers would have killed to have a bike like ours to race on.

And the worst case scenario is you learn reams of lessons that WILL save your bacon on the road. Getting spooked but keeping your cool is a big one....after a couple
of guys pass you on the brakes when you weren't expecting it on a racetrack, you learn very quickly how to unclench your sphincter and throw into the corner. That is
GOOD muscle memory. When you get spooked on the road, you'll be that much quicker and smoother in loosening up and throwing into the corner.

Anyway, I've rambled enough. With all of that said, I'm going to leave you with some media. I don't have any footage from my final sessions, but that's when I started
to chase guys that had previously been much faster than me and was keeping up. I clocked some laptimes I was VERY pleased with.

Anyway, I'll just leave it at that.

Good riding season this year....all thing's considered.

(video won't work on phones....chase camera has me ahead of it, that camera is mounted on a CBR 954)

Watch in high def full-screen ideally.

Trackday Compilation 2011 - YouTube


IMG_7402.jpg





IMG_7621.jpg





IMG_7529.jpg




:BLAA:

Mmmmm making me want to do it even more....

Sent from my R800x using Tapatalk
 

AngelFZ

Junior Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2010
Messages
1,089
Reaction score
29
Points
0
Location
Cocoa, FL - USA
Visit site
Lone,

After work today I went with my friend to meet a student she is tutoring, I waited for her so she would not ride back by herself and, instead of going to World of Beers, I went to books-a-million and this is what o got (I hope there are no problems by posting these pictures here).

Indeed I want to get to the track,aI big factor for me is that my back is not in the best shape (I'm still recovering from a herniated disk) I'm actually very happy and appreciative that I can ride my bike, and I want to try (at least once) I track day - I've been looking into this for quite some time. I need to concretize when and on the mean time I'm trying to get as much information as possible.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

VEGASRIDER

100K Mile Member
Elite Member
Site Supporter
Joined
May 5, 2007
Messages
6,495
Reaction score
127
Points
63
Location
RENO, NEVADA USA
Visit site
Lone, not a bad shot for going left!

Lone's strong side is to his right, as he spends hours practicing the only corner up in his hometown of Edmenton Alberta, and that would be at the only cloverleaf interchange.

I have taken the strong advise of Wavex, being that my bike is my only ride, I cannot afford to put my bike at risk. Thus, gives the true understanding why people have track bikes.

Someday, I will attend the Yamaha school and use their bikes. Choice of riding the FZ1 or R6.
 
Top