FB400
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Our bike has a "tip over switch"???
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Our bike has a "tip over switch"???
Finally, a real world experience pointing to the hazard of frequent use of the kill switch.
I think it would be beneficial if you tell us how to bypass the kill switch in case that ever happens to us in some deserted place. (Is the second picture how you did it?)
Could you give me possible emergency scenarios when you would use it?
Perhaps it's a bad idea since I've only seen it mentioned in this thread once, but I come to a complete stop in first gear and lower the kickstand. That kills the motor, and I can turn the key off after that. Other than not having the muscle-memory of the kill switch, I don't see any harm with it since the kickstand goes down every time I get off the bike anyways Does anyone else do this?
Just complete the circuit. The bike runs when the 2 contacts are closed. I used a little bit of spare wire to twist around side terminals of the switch. I did this as I planned to just clean the contacts inside the switch and continue using it.
The tilt switch doesn't always work if you have frame sliders. When I dropped my bike the engine did not cut out. I subsequently tested the switch and its fine.Yes, but I think it's more of a sensor than a switch. How would you like it if you have a faulty one of these and you go and make you turn and suddenly the bike shuts off. I believe all these safety precautions are overkill, probably to prevent lawsuits. I need to find a way to bypass all of these, in case they go bad and I need to start bike in emergency.
Perhaps it's a bad idea since I've only seen it mentioned in this thread once, but I come to a complete stop in first gear and lower the kickstand. That kills the motor, and I can turn the key off after that. Other than not having the muscle-memory of the kill switch, I don't see any harm with it since the kickstand goes down every time I get off the bike anyways Does anyone else do this?
It's the other way around for me... I often forget that I left the kickstand down and the engine stops when I put it in 1st gear... I'd better make damn sure than any future bike I get has the same feature (FZ6 is my first)
Perhaps it's a bad idea since I've only seen it mentioned in this thread once, but I come to a complete stop in first gear and lower the kickstand. That kills the motor, and I can turn the key off after that. Other than not having the muscle-memory of the kill switch, I don't see any harm with it since the kickstand goes down every time I get off the bike anyways Does anyone else do this?
Every time. I think I developed the idea/habit from my training class where instructors would tell us to put the bike in N before shutting it off. At the time I had trouble getting the bike into N while running so I would Put the stand down instead then move it to N easier. (I don't have this problem anymore though but still like to turn it off using the stand.) I also like to leave mine in gear to keep my mind at ease that it's not gonna roll away on me. And to help prevent kids from trying to roll it around.
The only time I use the red switch is for maintenance like oil checks etc.
I have said it before (just can't remember if in this thread).
Modern bikes are switching a very low current with the kill switch as it is wired to the ECU not into the coil circuit like they used to be on older bikes.
Modern switchgear contacts for low currents use the mechanical action of the switch to clean the contacts during switching.
I reckon using the switch at least every now and again is good for the switch, and confirms operation.
It does seem a little old-fashioned, and perhaps I am not reading the diagram correctly, but it sure looks to me like the kill switch directly powers the coils. Also powers a relay which supplies power to the fuel pump.