chicken stripes??

[lonesoldier84]

oh the drama....clearly this thread does not meet your online discussion standards.

In the third world you wouldn't get away with that sort of talk.

 

[Marthy]

Easy guys. Everyone who's driving within there comfort level is fine, chicken strip or not. When I turn or lean, I don't think about the strip... I just turn. I grind my peg over the weekend riding 2 up, no biggy! It wasn't in purpose... the turn was a little more tight than expected coming out of the freeway. Doesn't make me a squid...

 

[lonesoldier84]

As the FZ is (relatively) a sport bike it is meant to be pushed.

If you're slow that's fine. But comfort levels are there to be pushed. Don't settle for things in life. Get aggressive and find a way through to the sweet, sweet fruit on the other side of that wall.

Don't take pride in being slow. Take pride in being safe, sure. But to be safe doesn't mean you have to settle into a lifetime of being a slow rider.

You guys ride sportbikes!! It may be 10% touring but it's a relatively lightweight 600cc sportbike. Come on people. Get to a racetrack already. FFS haha

 

[Tailgate]

For me, I endeavor to become a more skillful rider. I like to gradually push the lean envelope. It requires nerve and, especially, confidence. I see nothing foolish with learning, on or off the track, the skills to become a confident rider. With good judgment, I think endeavoring to explore the bike's/rider's limits can contribute to making one a better all around rider. Knowing how far one can lean, the machine's limits, etc., could, one day, mean the difference between crashing and not crashing.

 

[FIZZER6]

My point was that hitting the edge (limit) of your lean angle does not make you a good rider. Does it make you a fast rider? Maybe. I could ride in a circle in a parking lot at 15 mph and burn off my chicken strips.

No chicken strips means you are at the limit of the bike's cornering when you hit that edge which means you have ZERO room for error at that point. Unfortunately a lot of "errors" are present in street riding in the form of bad cage drivers, debris, animals, bad pavement, gravel, etc.

You all can ride how you choose but I stand by my chicken strips and choose a more reasonable street riding approach.

If you do not have chicken strips due to your track time then disregard this post.

 

[lonesoldier84]

Unfortunately a lot of "errors" are present in street riding in the form of bad cage drivers, debris, animals, bad pavement, gravel, etc.

So don't ride that aggressively in a bad spot for it?

There's some beautiful bits of road with good visibility out there. If you're calm and comfortable at speed you are still able to react. You are not at a point where you're hanging on for dear life screaming in your helmet. Lol

If you were riding at the pace you are today in your first year your logic would still hold true.

Point is:

I'm not saying just randomly lean further. I'm suggesting getting more out of the riding experience by getting into a lot more track time and then seeing how it affects your confidence level at speed. If you do that and you do a bit of proper sport touring you're going to look back at that post and grin.

 

[FIZZER6]

So don't ride that aggressively in a bad spot for it?

There's some beautiful bits of road with good visibility out there. If you're calm and comfortable at speed you are still able to react. You are not at a point where you're hanging on for dear life screaming in your helmet. Lol

If you were riding at the pace you are today in your first year your logic would still hold true.

Point is:

I'm not saying just randomly lean further. I'm suggesting getting more out of the riding experience by getting into a lot more track time and then seeing how it affects your confidence level at speed. If you do that and you do a bit of proper sport touring you're going to look back at that post and grin.

Touche'

Good points. I have never been on the track, just don't have the time/cash for it in the near future with the whole homeowner/wife thing to deal with...

If I were more experienced and confident I'd feel more comfortable at track like speeds on familiar stretches of street without blind curves or bordered by meat grinders. It hurts much less to low side off the outside of a curve into the grass, hay or tire wall then into oncoming traffic or trees, therefor regardless of your skill level you should not be getting close to 100% of your riding ability on the street period unless you have a death wish. Be safe fellas/gals.

 

[spock]

I wish I could do track days ... but in this country there is only one track that is far away from me, no time for going by bike one day, then the next go to the track and then the other day come back again by bike.

I don't have a truck and anyway going there by car takes even more time.

No money to go by plane and take that way the bike, flights here are way expensive.

So in summary ... I'M SCREWED UP regarding track days :spank:

So I really envy you guys.

cheers

 

[Tailgate]

My point was that hitting the edge (limit) of your lean angle does not make you a good rider. Does it make you a fast rider? Maybe. I could ride in a circle in a parking lot at 15 mph and burn off my chicken strips.

I respectfully disagree. Riders who whose tires show no "chicken stips" indicate an experienced rider when it comes to cornering. To lean that far means that the rider has mastered the skill of accessing apexes, and lines to attack a curve. I respect the rider who has the skill and confidence and knowledge to realize the limits of the machine. I don't know about such slow speed lean angles. Sounds unsafe but, honestly, I've never considered it.

 

[Tailgate]

My point was that hitting the edge (limit) of your lean angle does not make you a good rider. Does it make you a fast rider? Maybe. I could ride in a circle in a parking lot at 15 mph and burn off my chicken strips.

I respectfully disagree. Riders whose tires show no "chicken stips" indicate an experienced rider when it comes to cornering. To lean that far means that the rider has mastered the skill of accessing apexes, and lines to attack a curve. I respect the rider who has the skill, confidence and knowledge to realize the limits of the machine. I don't know about such slow speed lean angles. Sounds unsafe but, honestly, I've never considered it.

 

[DefyInertia]

I think that we would all agree that this is the proper way to ride and remove your chicken strips to show your superior skills, right?

:BLAA:

My point was that hitting the edge (limit) of your lean angle does not make you a good rider.

Agreed :thumbup:

Does it make you a fast rider? Maybe.

No.

No chicken strips means you are at the limit of the bike's cornering when you hit that edge which means you have ZERO room for error at that point.

I don't think a blanket statement like this is true. I ride with some people that are much better riders than me. When we are going round the same corner at the same speed at the same lean angle, they have more room for error than I do because they are more skilled. Skills in this context range widley from awareness and reading the road / other drivers to pure cornering / braking / etc. ability.

With a nice sticky warm front you can scrub a ton of speed and change direction very quickly even at serious lean angles (enough to remove the rear chicken strip), you just have to have the know how to do it.

Also, you still have more lean in reserve once the rear strip has been used...the front will keep diminishing as you lean further and the rear will continue to look the same. It does not take all that much lean angle to remove the strip on a regular street tire.

You all can ride how you choose but I stand by my chicken strips and choose a more reasonable street riding approach.

So those without strips are being less reasonable? Pretty strong statement. I'm guessing that 100,000 miles (or less) from now you may have a different view. Not to go off topic, but people manage the risks that motorcycling poses in all different ways....I'd venture to guess that your daily commute puts you at a high level of risk for a major crash (deer, speed, etc.), chicken strips or not. Pure speculation of course...:thumbup:

 

[codeblue]

Okay Fellas, here's one going back just a few years during an FZ6 meet in Vermont. Enjoy:thumbup:
I believe the caption was courtesy of FZ1inNH.

 

[codeblue]

Or try it on a KTM as my buddy did "KaTooM", not bad lean on an enduro with knobbies.

 

[codeblue]

You got to admit, this is one mean lean on this bike :BLAA:

 

[Wavex]

LOL!!!! the dude's skilled as hell to be able to do that!!!!!

 

[Hellgate]

LOL!!!! the dude's skilled as hell to be able to do that!!!!!

Or a 'tard... too funny.

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[DefyInertia]

Or try it on a KTM as my buddy did "KaTooM", not bad lean on an enduro with knobbies.

Does he have chicken strips???????????? :Flip: Pics or it didn't happen.

 

[FIZZER6]

I respectfully disagree. Riders who whose tires show no "chicken stips" indicate an experienced rider when it comes to cornering. To lean that far means that the rider has mastered the skill of accessing apexes, and lines to attack a curve. I respect the rider who has the skill and confidence and knowledge to realize the limits of the machine. I don't know about such slow speed lean angles. Sounds unsafe but, honestly, I've never considered it.

I've seen big dudes with poor form in corners who lean like this:

Has this guy mastered riding just because his chicken strips are gone? You can't assess the skill level of a rider solely on the presence or lack of chicken strips.

If you lean the wrong way you are going to get the bike leaned over more even though you are carrying less speed through the corner than the guy hanging off his bike (Physics 101):

 

[turbid]

i have chicken strips around 1" on each side, not proud of them and they re pissing me to be honest. however i have very low confidence in low speed confidence and when it comes to tight hairpins going down a slope? pretty much zero confidence in the road surface and im always thinking "the rear will slip, take it easy". i,m also finding it hard to increase speed and remain cofident and calm. i dont think i have enough balls to do it.

the strange thing tho is that on 125 cc scooters i tend to tackle corners much harder and at higher speed than the fz, then i tackle the same corners with the fz and i hit them slower, maybe i need more bike time on the fz

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

Got a little bit left on the FZ with PR2's. First is the rear tire, #2 the front-weird wear pattern as the area to the right has more scuffing than the area to the left. About 5,000 miles on them both...

The FJR has a bit more but it has Bridgestones which I won't push as hard