This should be required viewing for everyone before they engage in a political discussion, especially those in the US.
Just wild video
Just wild video
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Types of Government Explained
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Nice find.
This needs to broadcast all over TV land.
So, I just made my Senior daughter and Freshman Son sit and watch this we me, then I asked them if they had been taught any of the basic premises contained within the video. The response, no....
Add your own conclusion....
Add your own conclusion....
bertmoog
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Hellgate, this should be required viewing for every citizen of America. Thank you for sharing. :thumbup:
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wrightme43
Thanks Pete!!!
So just tossing the idea out, you know. How about we hang all of congress and the senate (well except for Ron Paul as far as I know he has consistently voted on the side of the constition) I think it would be a good start.
Random people out of the phone book could do a better job than the clowns that are running the asylum now.
So just tossing the idea out, you know. How about we hang all of congress and the senate (well except for Ron Paul as far as I know he has consistently voted on the side of the constition) I think it would be a good start.
Random people out of the phone book could do a better job than the clowns that are running the asylum now.
hardway
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Democracy = mob rule.
They found this out in ancient Athens. The tyranny of the majority was a concept that our founding fathers understood very well, and tried to avoid at all costs!
Our country was founded as a republic, and yet now we attack other countries to "spread democracy".
I have to take exception to the piece's definition of anarchy however. Anarchy truly means "no state" or "no ruler". It doesn't mean "no rules". If anyone wants to read up on it, a very intelligent man by the name of Murry Rothbard, in the books, "The Ethics of Liberty", and "For a New Liberty", as well as many essays, has thought through the consequences of allowing the free market to handle defense and justice, as well as the creation and distribution of goods and other services.
Think about this for a minute (or longer, hopefully): A monopoly will always provide less service at a higher cost. If you agree, think through to the conclusion of this in regards to government.
One more thought: government is made up of people, however they may achieve their post, by vote or asignment by king, or posting by commite, and people are never truly objective, they operate with motives and prejudices, we all do. If you agree about people not being truly objective, think through to the conclusion of this in regards to government.
They found this out in ancient Athens. The tyranny of the majority was a concept that our founding fathers understood very well, and tried to avoid at all costs!
Our country was founded as a republic, and yet now we attack other countries to "spread democracy".
I have to take exception to the piece's definition of anarchy however. Anarchy truly means "no state" or "no ruler". It doesn't mean "no rules". If anyone wants to read up on it, a very intelligent man by the name of Murry Rothbard, in the books, "The Ethics of Liberty", and "For a New Liberty", as well as many essays, has thought through the consequences of allowing the free market to handle defense and justice, as well as the creation and distribution of goods and other services.
Think about this for a minute (or longer, hopefully): A monopoly will always provide less service at a higher cost. If you agree, think through to the conclusion of this in regards to government.
One more thought: government is made up of people, however they may achieve their post, by vote or asignment by king, or posting by commite, and people are never truly objective, they operate with motives and prejudices, we all do. If you agree about people not being truly objective, think through to the conclusion of this in regards to government.
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Somalia is an excellent example of anarchy, and they've been going at it for what, 20 years? Ethiopia was in that camp however they have had it with their neighbors and sent troops to Somalia.
hardway
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Yes, but now the Ethiopians have mostly left, and Somalia is the same.
Africa is a mess in general. For a multitude of reasons I don't even pretend to fully understand, there really aren't many (any?) long term success stories from any type of government or lack thereof. It's definitely arguable that Somalia's fared at least as well as the other societies on their continent.
What Rothbard, and others, have proposed is a system of common law, based upon property rights, stemming from the of basic ownership of self. Courts and arbitration, as well as enforcement and security could exist as private for profit entities, subject to competitive market forces.
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IMO you need to watch a similar one about the different economic systems (Socialism/Mixed/Capitalism) before you start the discussion as well!
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If you have the time, this document from over 2000 years ago highlights many of the same problems we face today.
Plato's Republic - courtesy of Project Gutenberg
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1497
Plato's Republic - courtesy of Project Gutenberg
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1497
Thank you! :thumbup:
It is so important to know where we came from as a people so we do not suffer the same failures as those who came before us.
