Streetfighter conversion kit

[elus1ve]

you are correct about the driving direction but the light is designed to focus the light in the center... not sure if yamaha was lazy to design the light or maype its not possible..

You are back! Welcome back

If the beam focuses on the center, that's fine. I don't want to annoy incoming traffic.

Oh and btw, I really like the kit that you have put together. Really makes our life easier!

 

[elus1ve]

I have the kit ordered from Vishnu and bought a couple of tools to do the job. As soon as I get it, I will be working on converting my bike.

I will post my result when done so as to conclude this thread. Thanks everybody for your support! :thumbup:

 

[degake]

Haha, I will take it easy for the time being maybe I'll do the projector later, or sooner than later. But thanks for the offer!!! :thumbup:

I just checked on my bike and I have two bulbs H4 like in the pics and H7. I think the H7 will be useless once I convert. The H4 has a dual filament, one HID and one halogen from what I gathered on the Internet. I also saw that it seems to have all the cables to use both bulbs. I will know for sure when I take it apart.

If I am to use what I have right now and not buy new stuff, I am thinking that I can have low beam on HID and high beam on halogen. That's not ideal but quite alright since high-beam is not used often.

However, I don't know if the low beam (HID) needs to be deactivated when the high beam (Halogen) is ON. Will there be a heat issue with both on? So if I put a relay to cut off the low beam, I will loose HID on high beam.

You should be able to use that dual bulb (HID for low beam, halogen for high beam) on your new headlight.
The relay supplied with the HID kit should take care of all the necessary switching when going from low beam to high and vice versa.

And as for the projector; it would run around $150-180 to get everything you need

If you need any help regarding the projectors, or the HID kit that's currently installed, just send me a PM and I'll help you out

Grtz,


Degake

 

[elus1ve]

I got the kit yesterday! Took the expedited shipping option from dev_usc and it got here (Canada) in less than a week. All the components were properly wrapped and there was no damage during shipment. One of the plastic piece was missing a clip though, but it seems more like a manufacturing defect.

So I spent more than 6 hours doing the conversion yesterday, what a pain. Whoever said it takes 2 hours... :spank:

I ran into a few minor challenges, but the cabling was the biggest hassle. It took some thoughts to find a proper route so that the movement of the fork is undisturbed by the cabling and also that the cable itself doesn't get twisted too much to avoid broken connections in the future. It is also quite packed once you put the headlight unit in. Having the ballast for the HID to fit in there did not help.

I took the bike for a test ride yesterday and everything seems to work great. I am not quite finished yet though. I will have to take the headlight off again for the following

- Connect the high beam and the running light. I didn't have the required connections/wires and I did not want to cut the original wiring of the bike.
- Mount the mirrors. My kit was missing the mirror mounts but I wasn't planning to use it anyway. The mirror mounts is very troublesome as it requires to move the clutch and brake controls. Going to look for another way. Any suggestions?
- Reroute the throttle cable. There is a metal loop in the headlight mount for the throttle cable but you need to remove the throttle cable completely to pass it through. In the original setup there is also a metal bracket that can't be removed unless the throttle setup is disassembled. So for now, it is just dangling somewhere, not ideal.
- Have to check the horn placement because for some reasons, the cable keeps popping off the horn.

Couple of additional notes:
- My HID bulb works great with the new headlight. The light height is a tiny bit high but the spread is good, it concentrates on the middle and the right side of the road, therefor not blinding incoming traffic. The light spread is much better than when it was installed in the original headlight.
- I added a bunch of rubber gromets everywhere to avoid vibration at speed. While assembling, I could see a few places where noise/vibration would occur if I don't use gromets. On my quick test ride, everything was kept together well.

I will post pictures of the cabling routing and the rubber gromets I have used
when I take the headlight apart again. Soon.

 

[degake]

The HID ballast will fit perfectly under the gas tank (If the wiring between HID bulb and ballast is long enough )

Grtz,


Degake

 

[ebster1085]

So I spent more than 6 hours doing the conversion yesterday, what a pain. Whoever said it takes 2 hours... :spank:

Really? I know everyone works at their own pace, but it didnt take me even close to that long. I would say the 2hrs you mention is about what it took me, give or take a little.

I ran into a few minor challenges, but the cabling was the biggest hassle. It took some thoughts to find a proper route so that the movement of the fork is undisturbed by the cabling and also that the cable itself doesn't get twisted too much to avoid broken connections in the future. It is also quite packed once you put the headlight unit in. Having the ballast for the HID to fit in there did not help.

There shouldnt be too many issues with routing the cables on either side, nor figuring out how to "bundle" the wiring to keep it clean and tidy. If you need any help on routing some of the wires, I would be happy to take a pic of my set up and shoot it over. I think the biggest space issue you ran into had to do with the HID ballast, something that was not part of my installation. But, like Degake said, under the gas tank is a great place to hide that. I currently have my BD43 relay under there with plenty of room to spare so I imagine it woud be a good fit.

- Mount the mirrors. My kit was missing the mirror mounts but I wasn't planning to use it anyway. The mirror mounts is very troublesome as it requires to move the clutch and brake controls. Going to look for another way. Any suggestions?

I felt the same way as you and was not a fan of the mirrors included with the kit. I opted to go with a set of bar ends and when I started looking I was drawn to the Rizomas and CRG's, but was not happy about the price. Finally decided on the Rizoma knock-offs offered by RideItMoto and like them. They require some modification to install with the stock bar ends, but I am happy with my result.

- Reroute the throttle cable. There is a metal loop in the headlight mount for the throttle cable but you need to remove the throttle cable completely to pass it through. In the original setup there is also a metal bracket that can't be removed unless the throttle setup is disassembled. So for now, it is just dangling somewhere, not ideal.

All I did was cut a gap in the stock loop and then pull it off. No need for that anymore. As far as rerouting the throttle cables through a loop in the VS headlight mount, you could of course do that, but I think its unecessary. I would just make sure the throttle doenst bind and leave it alone.

- Have to check the horn placement because for some reasons, the cable keeps popping off the horn.?

A lot of users, myself included, mount the horn to the left side of the frame where the fairing used to attach. There will be no issues here with the wires popping off as you wil have some excess wire for movement that wont be effected with steering input.

- I added a bunch of rubber gromets everywhere to avoid vibration at speed. While assembling, I could see a few places where noise/vibration would occur if I don't use gromets. On my quick test ride, everything was kept together well.

I too did this. Dove into my treasure trove of extra parts and pulled out some grommets I had for a few choice places to avoid extra stresses and potential vibration. Very happy I did this.

Post up some pics dude!!

 

[elus1ve]

Ok so here are some pics I took yesterday at 2am after I had finished working on it for more than 6 hours. Yes I get it, I am slow To my defense, all my neighbours stopped by one by one to chat about what I was doing. It was fun the first few times but after 6-7 visits, I just wanted to progress on the work. Some even tried to offer help, which I think they were worst than I am I also spent a lot of time checking the small details.

The pics were taken in a dimly lit parking lot, where I did my work. No I do not have a super equipped garage with lots of tools. I had bought a few cheap tool sets just for this job

As you can see on the HID light, the spread is great. There is more light on the right, which is perfect.

I will take more pics when I take it apart again and I will show the cabling work I did. That should be interesting.

 

[elus1ve]

I felt the same way as you and was not a fan of the mirrors included with the kit. I opted to go with a set of bar ends and when I started looking I was drawn to the Rizomas and CRG's, but was not happy about the price. Finally decided on the Rizoma knock-offs offered by RideItMoto and like them. They require some modification to install with the stock bar ends, but I am happy with my result.

I got some knock-off off eBay too will probably get here in a couple of weeks. See pic for the one I chose. I will still have to figure out how to mount them though.

All I did was cut a gap in the stock loop and then pull it off. No need for that anymore. As far as rerouting the throttle cables through a loop in the VS headlight mount, you could of course do that, but I think its unecessary. I would just make sure the throttle doenst bind and leave it alone.

Yeah I could do that for the stock loop, that's not a big deal, but I want the throttle cable to go through the headlight mount's loop. Like I said, it is a bit crowded behind the headlight and the loop keeps it from getting jammed. I noticed that when I steer the handle to the left, the throttle does not come back to its initial position as fast as when the handle is in the middle. This should not happen, can be dangerous.

A lot of users, myself included, mount the horn to the left side of the frame where the fairing used to attach. There will be no issues here with the wires popping off as you wil have some excess wire for movement that wont be effected with steering input.

I put the horn at the bottom, you can see it in the pic. Plenty of space and cable, must be another reason why the cable is popping out. Haven't really looked into that well.

I too did this. Dove into my treasure trove of extra parts and pulled out some grommets I had for a few choice places to avoid extra stresses and potential vibration. Very happy I did this.

I will post pics of where I put grommets. I had a bag of those little things of all sizes, really came in handy

 

[elus1ve]

The HID ballast will fit perfectly under the gas tank (If the wiring between HID bulb and ballast is long enough )

Grtz,


Degake

Yes that's a nice solution. my cable ain't long enough to go there though and don't want to add more cables for the time being. I did find a nice spot for it, right under the dashboard. Will post pics soon.

 

[elus1ve]

I am going to have to revisit the height of the light beam. I just compared with my car, which has a factory HID and the bike is way too high

 

[ebster1085]

Those are nice mirrors and I actually was close to getting the same set myself, butg decided againts it because I didnt feel like dealing with mounting them.

One method some guys use is to pick up the clutch perch from an FZ8 which already has a threaded hole for mirrors and then drill and tap the brake side yourself. There are a few threads on it so you should be able to find it with the search feature.

Nice work overall man, looks great!

 

[Ben_H]

you use a fz8 clutch perch and drill and tap the fz6 master

 

[zackeeboy]

I got some knock-off off eBay too will probably get here in a couple of weeks. See pic for the one I chose. I will still have to figure out how to mount them though.

This looks like the same kit that I got for mirrors, just the mirrors were more round - mine came from the2wheels.com. I ordered the FZ8 clutch perch from boats.net and swapped everything out (although had to go to Home Depot because one of the bolts sheared when removing from stock clutch - thank you loctite...). Went to attach the mirror the other day and the bolt was too long to tighten - it hit the handlebar first. Went to Home Depot to get a shorter bolt, and of course they didn't have any 10mm bolts at all with a hex cap.. So will probably have to cut mine down to fit. Just giving you a heads up that the bolts are fairly long with the kit.

I also am trying to figure out the best route for mounting the right mirror - am considering doing the drill/tap on the master but need to get the right drill bit and tap first... Hesitant, but seems like the best route.

 

[Timbostang]

Can't wait to get my kit in. Says its is on the truck in Houston. I'm amazed how quick the shipping has been. It left India Tuesday and went through a couple of countries and is here in Texas today!

 

[elus1ve]

Can't wait to get my kit in. Says its is on the truck in Houston. I'm amazed how quick the shipping has been. It left India Tuesday and went through a couple of countries and is here in Texas today!

Did you take the $15 express shipping with DHL too? They are super fast and thanks to Vishnu labelling the parts as samples, I didn't get to pay duty at all :thumbup:

 

[elus1ve]

I removed the headset again today to see if the light throw can be lowered, but it is not possible. Currently my light throw is just at the limit of being too high for the car in front of me. Note that using the spacers on the headlight mount as instructed in the kit causes the headlight to angled up and raise the light throw. It is not the HID bulb that is causing the wrong light throw. Even with halogen it will be a bit higher than ideal. I have no idea how to adjust this so I am going to leave it at that. The most important part is that it doesn't blind incoming traffic by having too much light on the left shoulder of the road.

While it was off, I redid my whole cabling routing knowing that there is not much room once the headlight is in place. First pic shows the previous config where I had everything in the middle. It was a bad design as the headlight + cables + HID kit would be too packed in the middle.

So I routed the cables around the headlight unit and moved everything on the outside. Once the fairing are in place, it will hide everything nicely. It looks much cleaner now and there is plenty of space for the headlight and the throttle cables etc. I added a pic of the new config plus my wiring diagram to help others. There is also my HID kit as well that fitted pretty well in there, no more space issue. Also use some flexible tubes to protect the cables as they are pretty exposed to the elements compared to the original fairing.

Green line: Main wiring harness
Yellow lines: Connecting wires to the main harness.
Blue: HID kit.

Note that I moved the horn to frame on the left side of the bike's frame as in this position (as shown in the pic), the front suspension would hit it and disconnect it. So I followed ebster's advice and it works great.

 

[Timbostang]

I just had the regular shipping.

 

[elus1ve]

I just had the regular shipping.

Darn, I guess the express shipping was useless after all. Is it still with DHL?

 

[elus1ve]

I found a solution to mounting the mirrors on the handle bar, which I think is nice enough and I won't have to drill, move the levers, or replace any parts. Will post pic tomorrow when I get them. Costed me less than $20 at a local motorcycle store.

 

[elus1ve]

I got to install my mirror mounts. Here are some pics, I think it is a good compromise in aesthetic and practicality. No drilling, no moving of levers etc.

Left side is a simple thin dual brackets type that you can squeeze close to the lever mount. $7 at local store.

Right side is a single side bracket that replaces the original lever bracket. $10 at local store.

Let me know if you needs parts no to buy.

Note: Both mounts requires the mirrors to screw on clockwise, so Yamaha mirrors (like those in Vishnu's kit) will only work on the left side. The right side requires a counter-clockwise screw, hence the reason why there is only one mirror on my bike for now. It's legal here but I will eventually put in my replacement mirrors once then get in. The mirrors in the kit looks ok and provide good visibility.

On another note, it is F1 week-end here in Montreal. Riding downtown is just so fun! Lots of bikes, cars and beautiful girls. :cheer: