Rode to work today with ice, frost and 20F. How big are your gonads?

[outasight20]

The coldest I've ridden in was 8 miles to work on city streets in 8 degree weather. Had heated gloves, heated grips, balaclava, and a bunch of layers under my normal winter gear.

That was a couple years ago, and I don't think I would do it again Blah

 

[odachi13]

There has been some cold weather again around here in Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire but it's just the normal thing. Don't often check the temp in the middle of winter but seen -3/-4 C before. I only wear a work shirt and suit trousers under my gear, quilted liner in jacket but don't wear it in the trousers.

here's a favourite from my pre-fz6 days:

 

[2wheelieadv]

I was dodging some re-freeze in shaded areas of the road but there is no salt or sand on the roads here in the winter unless we get a freak blizzard.

Lucky. I guess VA roads in much better shape than in NJ. NY metro area is entirely covered in potholes. Especially after winter the roads are like in a third world country shape...
Also in the spring the sand from winter is still on the roads and can greet you in a harp curve. no fun

 

[FIZZER6]

Lucky. I guess VA roads in much better shape than in NJ. NY metro area is entirely covered in potholes. Especially after winter the roads are like in a third world country shape...
Also in the spring the sand from winter is still on the roads and can greet you in a harp curve. no fun

I don't doubt that. I have family in PA and the roads in PA in the winter are 100X worse than they are in VA! They resurface roads down here more frequently and the promptly patch pot holes caused by snow plows if we get enough snow to warrant plowing. So far this winter we've only had 3" of snow total as of today.

 

[VEGASRIDER]

From my experience, the state of Virginia has one of the best maintained roads and highways. Always fresh, smooth and with very little pot holes. I'm guessing it's proximity to D.C with all the politicians has something to do with that. Can't have those politicians being driven around in their luxury vehicles going over those pot holes.

 

[FIZZER6]

From my experience, the state of Virginia has one of the best maintained roads and highways. Always fresh, smooth and with very little pot holes. I'm guessing it's proximity to D.C with all the politicians has something to do with that. Can't have those politicians being driven around in their luxury vehicles going over those pot holes.

No. It's because the Communist Wealth of VA has an ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX on every car, truck, trailer, motorcycle, ATV, RV, Camper, boat, etc that you own! They use NADA value and we pay somewhere between 2-2.5% of the assessed value every December in taxes. As a result we have nice roads and 2X as many state police as most states. Yippie!

 

[payneib]

At least you get good roads out of paying tax. We have to pay a road tax, that isn't a road tax (vehicle excise duty), doesn't go towards roads, so ours are still pump. No seriously, you could use them as BMX pump tracks.

 

[FIZZER6]

At least you get good roads out of paying tax. We have to pay a road tax, that isn't a road tax (vehicle excise duty), doesn't go towards roads, so ours are still pump. No seriously, you could use them as BMX pump tracks.

The USA isn't far behind on the socialist failing experiment! The State of California was considering taxing motor vehicle users based on the miles driven per year. :spank:

 

[VEGASRIDER]

The USA isn't far behind on the socialist failing experiment! The State of California was considering taxing motor vehicle users based on the miles driven per year. :spank:

Just wondered if any state started to do such a thing, they would have the guts to exclude motorcycles. I don't think bikes should be included just because there is no way a motorcycle can create the wear and tear a car, truck, bus or RV can do to a road. Motorcycles don't make any pot holes larger because the consequences of going into them can be great, so we avoid them at all cost. On the other hand, anything with four wheels, it's just a speed bump for them.

 

[FIZZER6]

Just wondered if any state started to do such a thing, they would have the guts to exclude motorcycles. I don't think bikes should be included just because there is no way a motorcycle can create the wear and tear a car, truck, bus or RV can do to a road. Motorcycles don't make any pot holes larger because the consequences of going into them can be great, so we avoid them at all cost. On the other hand, anything with four wheels, it's just a speed bump for them.

A tax based on miles driven proponents were arguing that people who drive more and therefor pollute more and use the roads more should have to pay more road tax. The BS of this is what about people who have long commutes because they can't afford to live near the metro they work in? It will hurt those guys and the wealthy who live in the cities and only drive 5 miles/day won't be affected by this kind of tax. Just another way to burden and decrease the size of the middle class.

 

[Koissu]

No. It's because the Communist Wealth of VA has an ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX on every car, truck, trailer, motorcycle, ATV, RV, Camper, boat, etc that you own! They use NADA value and we pay somewhere between 2-2.5% of the assessed value every December in taxes. As a result we have nice roads and 2X as many state police as most states. Yippie!

When I moved to MA, I discovered they had a little thing called 'Excise Taxes'. Which, growing up in Vermont, I had never heard of. Being taxed for simply having a vehicle and living in a particular zip code was foreign to me. I actually just googled the definition and it didn't help much: "A motor vehicle and trailer excise is in lieu of a tangible personal property tax and is levied for the privilege of registration." What is tangible personal property? Because I don't own a house they hit my for owning vehicles?

Anyways, I soon discovered Vermont was unique in other ways like being one of only 5 states that doesn't require students to recite the pledge of allegiance every morning. I remember when my wife (a teacher) first told me a story about that and it blew me away - students standing and reciting it every day.

 

[FIZZER6]

When I moved to MA, I discovered they had a little thing called 'Excise Taxes'. Which, growing up in Vermont, I had never heard of. Being taxed for simply having a vehicle and living in a particular zip code was foreign to me. I actually just googled the definition and it didn't help much: "A motor vehicle and trailer excise is in lieu of a tangible personal property tax and is levied for the privilege of registration." What is tangible personal property? Because I don't own a house they hit my for owning vehicles?

Anyways, I soon discovered Vermont was unique in other ways like being one of only 5 states that doesn't require students to recite the pledge of allegiance every morning. I remember when my wife (a teacher) first told me a story about that and it blew me away - students standing and reciting it every day.

I own a home too. I pay property taxes on my home, my 3 cages and 2 motorcycles every year. If you own say $30,000 of assessed market value of personal vehicles you would be looking to pay about $800/year on personally property tax if you lived here in VA. That said our sales tax is only about 5% and our gas tax is one of the lowest in the country (current 87 octane pump price: $1.79/gal).

 

[LFZ6]

I think it's all ridiculous. You have to pay taxes on it when you buy it, then you have to pay taxes on it yearly. Ugh. ...

 

[ANLR21]

My gonads are big enough but my brain and self preservation instinct are bigger.

Agreed. Too many times I've had the wrong gloves, I'm a bad guesser apparently