Oil Fitler won't budge

[tini0211]

Hello, while it's winter I went to remove my oil filter and this can is simply stuck on. Started by hand of course, then a oil filter cap tool rounded the edges, a 3 claw tool which was crushing the can and not spinning, then a rope band tool, to finally a screw driver to the side. Still this thing won't budge, I'm not sure if the previous owner failed to put oil around the oil gasket seizing itself to the block or what. I've done probably 60 oil changes in my life all cars and almost all could be removed by hand then come to this bike and is a nightmare. Should I try a chain tool, try smacking at the base of the filter to spin, apply heat at the base of the oil filter using a heat gun? Looking for some ideas and much appreciated.
thanks!

 

[Motogiro]

Hard to advise without a picture. The heat should help. Can you run the motor? Is the oil filter still holding oil? If it is warm the motor by running it and the heat the filter with a heat gun.

 

[Gary in NJ]

I’ve never met a filter that can’t be removed with a strap wrench. If you haven’t destroyed the outer casing, give it a go.

 

[grahammarsden]

Is the oil filter still holding oil?

Probably not if they've used a screwdriver through the casing to try to lever it off...!

 

[Motogiro]

Probably not if they've used a screwdriver through the casing to try to lever it off...!

Put some bubble gum in the hole, then some JB Weld and then wrap it with some of that hockey stick tape! Lol! Actually I use that tape on my hiking staff and drum sticks.

 

[tini0211]

Hard to advise without a picture. The heat should help. Can you run the motor? Is the oil filter still holding oil? If it is warm the motor by running it and the heat the filter with a heat gun.

This should help!

 

[tini0211]

Put some bubble gum in the hole, then some JB Weld and then wrap it with some of that hockey stick tape! Lol! Actually I use that tape on my hiking staff and drum sticks.

Thank you! I'll try that method and do you suggest using the strap wrench again after that?

 

[Gary in NJ]

If you put a piece of inner tube between the filter and the strap wrench, I guarantee you'll get the filer off - first try.

 

[Motogiro]

Thank you! I'll try that method and do you suggest using the strap wrench again after that?

Sorry... I was joking about gum, JB Weld and hockey stick tape but what Gary says will likely work. Clean the filter casing from any oil, put some inner tube rubber on it and get a strap wrench on it. That little extra rubber helps with grip and torque. I usually add a few curse words and if that doesn't work... I pray....

 

[tini0211]

Sorry... I was joking about gum, JB Weld and hockey stick tape but what Gary says will likely work. Clean the filter casing from any oil, put some inner tube rubber on it and get a strap wrench on it. That little extra rubber helps with grip and torque. I usually add a few curse words and if that doesn't work... I pray....

No worries was a bit a gullible there haha. I'll give that go and I'll probably move the bike to my buddies shop where it's actually warm and not 30 degrees in my garage. Then my next winter project is doing the spark plugs and valve clearance since I hit 27k on the bike. I thought about doing the fork fluid and seals since I don't got documentation they were ever done despite I see no residue or leaks for now.

 

[tini0211]

Completely off subject have you guys ever ridden a second gen FZ1? I saw an 06 entirely stock with 2,000 miles for sale not too far from me. Fortunately the stator was replaced and no cracked frame on the welds

 

[PauliusD]

Completely off subject have you guys ever ridden a second gen FZ1? I saw an 06 entirely stock with 2,000 miles for sale not too far from me. Fortunately the stator was replaced and no cracked frame on the welds

I just bought a 2008 FZ1, but still haven't ridden it. There's a proper winter outside.
It does feel weird to sit on it after my FZ6. The ergonomics are very similar on paper but it really feels different. I guess I'll just need to get used to it

 

[tini0211]

I just bought a 2008 FZ1, but still haven't ridden it. There's a proper winter outside.
It does feel weird to sit on it after my FZ6. The ergonomics are very similar on paper but it really feels different. I guess I'll just need to get used to it

I'm 5'7" with a 30" inseam and the FZ6 I'm flat footed if I stop with one leg just fine and I know the FZ1's seat height is slightly higher. I was riding the new Ducati streetfighter V2S and Panigale V2s in August and those were too tall for me. I was tip toeing even on one leg.

 

[WarriorDog]

I've never had a problem with a filter that one of these couldn't remove. Lisle 63600

 

[iuztinrom]

I just did my first oil change after buying my 2007 FZ6, and my filter was also super tight and hard to remove. I just used a pair of pliers to remove it and installed a new one by hand.

 

[Ben Franklin]

No worries was a bit a gullible there haha. I'll give that go and I'll probably move the bike to my buddies shop where it's actually warm and not 30 degrees in my garage. Then my next winter project is doing the spark plugs and valve clearance since I hit 27k on the bike. I thought about doing the fork fluid and seals since I don't got documentation they were ever done despite I see no residue or leaks for now.

I would suggest considering putting rebuild kits in the brake calipers (all three)... shop manual recommends every two years; doubt that many do it that often, but I acquired mine with dragging calipers that locked the front wheel on the previous owner.

Also, the very tiny hole in the bottom of the front brake resevoir was plugged with muck/corrosion on mine. This hole is important. It vents brake fluid back into the brake resevoir, when you release pressure on the front brake lever. If it is plugged, AND the front calipers are dragging slightly, the fluid boils, pressurizes the lines, and abruptly locks up the front wheel. Cleaned it out with a torch tip cleaner, maybe 0.5mm diameter wire, maybe a little less.

I believe this is what happened to the prior owner of my bike. It also happened to me, while I was diagnosing it's mysterious lock up problem that he thought was a seized engine. Trust me, it is not fun. Bike stops suddenly; wheel is locked until the brake fluid cools a little.

Easy fixes, but a little prevention goes a long way.

 

[tini0211]

I would suggest considering putting rebuild kits in the brake calipers (all three)... shop manual recommends every two years; doubt that many do it that often, but I acquired mine with dragging calipers that locked the front wheel on the previous owner.

Also, the very tiny hole in the bottom of the front brake resevoir was plugged with muck/corrosion on mine. This hole is important. It vents brake fluid back into the brake resevoir, when you release pressure on the front brake lever. If it is plugged, AND the front calipers are dragging slightly, the fluid boils, pressurizes the lines, and abruptly locks up the front wheel. Cleaned it out with a torch tip cleaner, maybe 0.5mm diameter wire, maybe a little less.

I believe this is what happened to the prior owner of my bike. It also happened to me, while I was diagnosing it's mysterious lock up problem that he thought was a seized engine. Trust me, it is not fun. Bike stops suddenly; wheel is locked until the brake fluid cools a little.

Easy fixes, but a little prevention goes a long way.

Thanks Ben,
I'll add that to the list of stuff I have for the FZ for this riding season.