Gas station issues, helmet off?

FZ6er_FSR

Junior Member
Hi,

I'm wonder if anybody has this problem:

When I go fill up my car at the gas station, pull in next to a pump, get out, put the nozzle to the gas tank, swipe my prepay key, then select the octane and start pumping, no problem here.

When go fill up my bike, I get off my bike, keep my helmet on, nozzle to the tank and swipe my key, my transaction is cancelled and asked to go see the clerk. So, I wait, let the pump reset, and start filling up and going inside to swipe my key at the counter with my helmet on.

So, now when I fill the bike, I get off, take my time and take my helmet off and do the same procedure as for my car, no problems.

Anybody having this issue? Is it cause my gas station thinks I'm gonna do a pump and run eventhough I have a prepay key and points card? Or is there some policy about the gas station camera being able to see your face?
 
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fast blue one

The number of the beast
Elite Member
This is a common problem in the UK.
There was recently a case in point involving a supermarket chain which insisted that a rider removed his helmet before paying at the till, yet then immediately served the next customer who was wearing a Burka.
He complained about the obvious double standard but they said that the policy stood.
The annoying thing is that this chain has a facility to pay by card at the pump but their terminals are regularly out of action.

Motorcycle news in the UK runs a page on their site where readers can list anti and pro bike filling stations.

Anti-bike petrol stations - Motorcycle News
 

Rushiku

Junior Member
No problems here (Chicagoland), with helmet on.

I did have to go in once a few weeks ago, it was my third pump at that station in about 2 hours. (cage, gas for lawnmower, then finally the bike) So, I assume it was the bank moreso than the gas station.
 

chuckfz6ryder

Junior Member
Removing your helmet is a good thing to do for safety reasons. If a fire were to start, your hearing would be impaired with the helmet on and you may not notice the fire right away. Even a few seconds wasted before realizing a fire is burning could be the difference in getting hurt/killed
 

reiobard

Samurai FZ Soldier
Elite Member
if there were a fire i would prefer to be wearing a helmet.. personally at least.


But back on topic, no i have not had that problem around here. if the pump won;t take my card for whatever reason i will leave and go to the next station, i refuse to inconvenience myself for something so petty. and if they don't like it then they don't get my money.
 

madmanmaigret

Mad like crazy not angry
Besides the aforementioned safety concerns, it probably makes the clerk feel better to see your face. One day I was walking into a Burger King and was still in the process of taking my helmet off and the guy at the counter started screaming "take off your helmet!!!!" and at first I was kinda pi$$ed but I think if I was in his shoes thinking this guy may have a gun and in a few seconds it may be in my face...... I would want his helmet to be off also. It sucks we have this bad name to the public but I do whatever I can to make it better.
 

codeblue

winter soldier
Elite Member
It's probably for the security cameras as well, the guy with the burka is still showing his entire face. Unlike us behind the helmet, its only a small portion of our face. Not sure but just my $0.02
 

madmanmaigret

Mad like crazy not angry
It's probably for the security cameras as well, the guy with the burka is still showing his entire face. Unlike us behind the helmet, its only a small portion of our face. Not sure but just my $0.02
Taking this into concideration.... put your helmet up on your head where your face is showing...... see what happens.
 

dako81

FZ Rider
Elite Member
It's probably for the security cameras as well, the guy with the burka is still showing his entire face. Unlike us behind the helmet, its only a small portion of our face. Not sure but just my $0.02
A burka is usually worn by a female and only reveals enough face for her eyes to see out of.

Here is a burka bandit:



Some actually have a mesh window for the woman to see out of.
 
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CanadianFZ6

Member
Removing your helmet is a good thing to do for safety reasons. If a fire were to start, your hearing would be impaired with the helmet on and you may not notice the fire right away. Even a few seconds wasted before realizing a fire is burning could be the difference in getting hurt/killed
You're more likey to smell or see it first... Small fires just aren't that noisy.... Big fires (with explosions) would be noisy, however, if you can't see a big fire happening and people running screaming, hearing loss from the helmet is the least of you worries...;)
 

wolfc70

R is for Rust Coloration
Elite Member
If I pay at the pump, I keep my helmet on, if I have to go inside I will take it off. This seems to keep people at ease when you walk into a business.

I work at a financial institution and when I come in my hands are usually full, so I do not take my helmet off until I get to my desk. Once while walking in through the lobby, a coworker (who also rides) and I are walking in with helmets on and a member starts screaming at the top of her lungs and hits the floor.:eek: I just gave her a weird look and continued to my office where I took my gear off. I have no idea what was going through her mind, but two guys with dress pants, shirt and tie, and brief cases wearing helmets apparently scared her. I was expecting to hear from one of the VP s about that but never did.:rolleyes:
 

codeblue

winter soldier
Elite Member
A burka is usually worn by a female and only reveals enough face for her eyes to see out of.

Here is a burka bandit:



Some actually have a mesh window for the woman to see out of.
Thanks..... I wasn't aware exactly what a burka is, but I see your point. Again I'm sure it's for the security camera. Unlike a burka that is worn for religious reason and shouldn't be ask for removal, our helmets can be removed without violating any religious rights. Unless someone starts a new "helmet always on" religion. lol.
 

madmanmaigret

Mad like crazy not angry
Thanks..... I wasn't aware exactly what a burka is, but I see your point. Again I'm sure it's for the security camera. Unlike a burka that is worn for religious reason and shouldn't be ask for removal, our helmets can be removed without violating any religious rights. Unless someone starts a new "helmet always on" religion. lol.
The church of the WATGATT!
 

fast blue one

The number of the beast
Elite Member
Thanks..... I wasn't aware exactly what a burka is, but I see your point. Again I'm sure it's for the security camera. Unlike a burka that is worn for religious reason and shouldn't be ask for removal, our helmets can be removed without violating any religious rights. Unless someone starts a new "helmet always on" religion. lol.
I think you will find that the burka bandit was not being particularly religious in that picture.
When either are being worn they have a legitimate use. They can both be abused. A muslim terrorist in the UK made part of his escape disguised under a Burka.
I think the guy who complained to the supermarket had a legitimate beef.
People may not like having to remove things like Burkas but I believe; when in Rome...............
 

The Rayman

Professional Cat Herder
Elite Member
Besides the aforementioned safety concerns, it probably makes the clerk feel better to see your face. One day I was walking into a Burger King and was still in the process of taking my helmet off and the guy at the counter started screaming "take off your helmet!!!!" and at first I was kinda pi$ but I think if I was in his shoes thinking this guy may have a gun and in a few seconds it may be in my face...... I would want his helmet to be off also. It sucks we have this bad name to the public but I do whatever I can to make it better.
I have NEVER had this happen. Not even close. You were in the process of taking it off, he just wanted to be a jerk. This would piss me off to the point of giving the "fast food clerk" a piece of my mind. :spank: Ridiculous.
 

madmanmaigret

Mad like crazy not angry
I have NEVER had this happen. Not even close. You were in the process of taking it off, he just wanted to be a jerk. This would piss me off to the point of giving the "fast food clerk" a piece of my mind. :spank: Ridiculous.
It was a first for me but I was like whatever and got my steakhouse burger and left him at his dead end job :D
 
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wrightme43

Never had a problem. I just remove my tank bag, and right glove all the time.
 

sideslider

Member
when I fill up in a cage...
pull up to the pump
gas attendant swipes my card and pumps the gas for me

on a bike...
pull up, gas attendant swipes my card and hands me the pump
I pump the gas and hand the pump back or put it away myself

and all while wearing my helmet and sitting on my bike (yes watchout for gas)

I did see a rider that took his helmet off yesterday and I thought it was odd.

It seems like there are so many cars at the pump I just get in fill up and make room for someone else.
 
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