R6:
I'll just use a bunch of adjectives to *review* this one: torture, pain, discomfort, insane-to-use-on-street.. scalpel, precision, begs-to-be-ridden-on-track.
GSXR1000
After R6, this felt shockingly comfortable. Love the power of liter super sport too.. way better for street use, in my opinion. It can actually be almost *relaxing*, since it'll happily spin at 5k rpm and have plenty of go should you twist the throttle (the 600's need to be at 7+ before they really start to move).
Victory Magnum:
No need to talk about this.. if you've ridden one, you've ridden them all. Same clunky trans and a motor which feels much like it's going to break if you ask too much of it. The only thing that changes is the paint and wind protection (well.. mostly, anyway).
I do like their bikes, as far as cruisers go. Definitely not the smoothest of the bunch, but they look good, as far as cruisers go and do pull pretty well.
Harley (Wide Glide, Ultra Limited, Road Glide).
I really wanted to like them.. I really did, but sound was about the only thing I liked (stock pipes.. not loud, but a really nice rumble). Even the ones with biggest motors are *weak* compared to competitors (Indian, for example pulls much better and smoother).
Ergonomics are plain bad.. nothing is adjustable.
My biggest gripe (silly, but important): idiotic turn indicators! There's a switch on either side. To turn on right turn signal, you have to use right thumb. Good luck doing this while keeping a steady throttle... but wait there's more! They're supposed to be self canceling, but this does not always work. To cancel, you must press right again to cancel right signal. Same goes for left. Click it once too many times and the signal is on again.
But at least one of the bikes I demo'd was $36k
I'll just use a bunch of adjectives to *review* this one: torture, pain, discomfort, insane-to-use-on-street.. scalpel, precision, begs-to-be-ridden-on-track.
GSXR1000
After R6, this felt shockingly comfortable. Love the power of liter super sport too.. way better for street use, in my opinion. It can actually be almost *relaxing*, since it'll happily spin at 5k rpm and have plenty of go should you twist the throttle (the 600's need to be at 7+ before they really start to move).
Victory Magnum:
No need to talk about this.. if you've ridden one, you've ridden them all. Same clunky trans and a motor which feels much like it's going to break if you ask too much of it. The only thing that changes is the paint and wind protection (well.. mostly, anyway).
I do like their bikes, as far as cruisers go. Definitely not the smoothest of the bunch, but they look good, as far as cruisers go and do pull pretty well.
Harley (Wide Glide, Ultra Limited, Road Glide).
I really wanted to like them.. I really did, but sound was about the only thing I liked (stock pipes.. not loud, but a really nice rumble). Even the ones with biggest motors are *weak* compared to competitors (Indian, for example pulls much better and smoother).
Ergonomics are plain bad.. nothing is adjustable.
My biggest gripe (silly, but important): idiotic turn indicators! There's a switch on either side. To turn on right turn signal, you have to use right thumb. Good luck doing this while keeping a steady throttle... but wait there's more! They're supposed to be self canceling, but this does not always work. To cancel, you must press right again to cancel right signal. Same goes for left. Click it once too many times and the signal is on again.
But at least one of the bikes I demo'd was $36k