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I find one thing in this I disagree with. Manditory 2 year service. I believe you should be able to opt out with the understanding you have no vote untill it is completed.
 
By Mr. Karl Denninger. Owner of www.market-ticker.org

"He was scheduled this week to appear on the "Jerry Doyle Show" when he told the radio host that Obama had personally invited him to meet in the White House "to discuss the disturbing nature of the videos."
I've watched it. Exactly what is "disturbing"?
That our government works for us, and that the people have an unalienable right to enforce this fact? Ever read The Declaration of Independence, the document that led to the foundation of this nation? Let me help you:
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Seems rather clear to me.
That our Congress voted for the largest spending bill without reading it?
That Congress was told (several times) to enforce our immigration laws and has refused?
That illegal immigrants have no right to the common weal of our nation but Congress continues to insist that they do?
That Congress was told (at a level of 300:1 against) to NOT pass the EESA/TARP, and they ignored us?
That we the people indeed have spent our time watching American Idol and playing with consumer products bought with insoluble debt instead of discharging the duties of Citizenship?
That citizenship is not a spectator sport, and that the Declaration above gives us as Citizens the absolute right, as a collective group of people, to march on Washington DC, peaceably assemble there and through non-violent means demand that all 535 clowns in the Capitol resign - refusing to leave or permit ordinary commerce in that city (again, through non-violent civil disobedience) until they do?
That the people have every right to demand the redress called for in that video be passed as law and put into force - now?
That if we the people do not demand the cessation of these abuses that we are on a path today that will, with mathematical certainty, lead to the ruin of our nation, the loss of civil and political order, and that you will need a firearm to defend your person and property from those who would take advantage of the loss of that civil order and, quite possibly, to prevent the formation a different government in that political vaccum that would be completely unrecognizable to those who have actually read our Constitution?
All of the above are facts, not opinions.
Perhaps - just perhaps - did a few tea bags show up in Washington DC?
I along with many others have called for them to be sent.
Our government exists only because we the people grant it power over our lives. This is not because government has rights - it is because our creator endowed us with unalienable rights, among them life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
If you don't believe this, you're not an American.
Government in fact has no rights. All rights flow from creation, and government creates nothing. Government in fact steals for all it acquires, but we the people consent to that theft in the form of taxation so that order, as we direct, may flow from law.
That is, government acquires privileges only as we the people direct, and we the people have the absolute right to revoke those privileges, in part or full, any time we the people so choose.
The founding fathers not only understood this they were willing to die for it.
Some of them, in fact, did.
We the people today are indeed cowards in the main. Rather than demand that our government - OUR GOVERNMENT - do as we direct we instead returned nearly all of the representatives and senators who voted for the EESA/TARP against our explicit instruction to office in an election held just a couple of weeks later!
Is it any wonder that Congress feels free to allow con men in the "banking industry", both foreign and domestic, to literally steal nearly $100 billion dollars of our money through a "bailout" of AIG, passed through the firm as a conduit to banks around the world?
Is it any wonder that The Federal Reserve feels perfectly free to ignore strictures in its enabling legislation that prohibit it from holding equity stakes in assets of both AIG and the failed firm Bear Sterns, in the process (it appears) intentionally overpaying by $30 billion dollars?
Is it any wonder that The Federal Reserve felt perfectly free to give the finger to an FOIA request filed by Bloomberg News seeking to determine who had been bailed out and with what funds, specifically?
Is it any wonder that both Democrat and Republican candidates for President voted for the EESA/TARP - a bill that gave Henry Paulson plenary authority to spend $700 billion dollars we did not have, despite being told by their constituents - the population of this nation, by a 300:1 margin - to vote "NO" - and we, less than a month later, elected one of them President, despite the presence of other candidates on the ballots of all fifty states?
Is it any wonder that when the first half of that money was spent in a form and fashion other than Mr. Paulson stated it would be that Congress felt perfectly comfortable in doing nothing about it - not even revoking authority to spend the second half of the funds?
Is it any wonder that our government has felt "perfectly ok" more than doubling the public float of debt in The United States when one considers all pledged and funded bailout actions - events that have added more than eight trillion dollars of both funded and committed bailout monies to a public float that previously was six trillion?
Is it any wonder that our Congress and our Judiciary has ignored the blatant acts of fraud in our financial system for more than ten years, including but not limited to the Appraisers Petition signed by thousands of independent property appraisers, the Madoff scandal which they were notified of more than a decade ago, the alleged fraud at Stanford which they also knew of, millions of fraudulent mortgage applications, cooked appraisals, credit default swaps written with no capacity to pay, naked (illegal) short selling, intentionally false rumors and massive insider trading linked to them, obvious leaks of confidential government activity (and trades placed upon that information) prior to its pubic release, and literally hundreds of firms who reported "profits" that in fact were the fruit of poisonous activity, calling into question whether these profits were ever actually earned? All this and much more occurred over the last twenty years, yet you can count on your fingers the number of actual and meaningful prosecutions of people from the top down that were involved in these outrageous acts that fleeced Americans to the tune of trillions of dollars.
None of these things are, or should be "wonders".
We've been too busy watching American Idol to be bothered with discharging our duties of citizenship in The United States.
Citizenship is not a spectator sport, and we the people have been called out - and found wanting.
If you want to keep your nation, America, it is long past the time when you should be off your duff and making clear to your government that this sort of blatant fraud, theft and corruption will not be tolerated, it will stop, and that each and every person responsible will be indicted, tried, and if convicted go to prison - right here and now - no matter how "well-connected" they are.
Period.
 
Guys, Gals

Its time. We really have no choice anymore. We must either force thru peaceful means a change in our leaders, or watch our country die. If all else fails violent means are the only option left a oppresed people.

Do you think our Governement is acting in your and your childrens best intrest? Or do you feel they are acting in thier own best intrest, at your expense?

Seriously I am asking.

Where the hell is the outrage?
 
I like it. I agree with what wrightme says about waiving the right to vote if you don't want to serve.
 
I don't believe there's any lack of outrage, rather I believe when dealing with a government that totally ignores us what we lack is a strong leader.

That is the worry to me. Oddly enough man, I wonder if Mike Rowe would be on the side of the constition. He would at least be fair as he knew how.

That is my main worry. A strong leader that has the intrest of the countries people at heart. Anybody got any ideas on that one???????

Jefferson, Franklin, Hamilton, and Washington are all long dead.

Our public school system is failing our children and teaching them well how to be a public cow for the government to milk. We are in serious trouble here.
 
The only thing I find a potential conflict with is the mandatory service to vote... I tried every branch 'cept Nat guard, but got the red flag because I have tourettes... Then what? Do I get refused the right to vote?
 
Have to say, though, that I disagree with the notion of ridding the electoral college... without voter reform. We are quickly approaching a 50% untaxed population - crossing that threshold is permanency with the current system (why would the >50% vote tax increases for themselves?).

Now, if there was a simple test before admittance to a voter booth I could be swayed otherwise. Name the three branches of US government, who was the first president, etc. Same stuff a newly minted US citizen needs to answer. We'd be shocked to see the results amongst our own constituency.
 
Have to say, though, that I disagree with the notion of ridding the electoral college... without voter reform. We are quickly approaching a 50% untaxed population - crossing that threshold is permanency with the current system (why would the >50% vote tax increases for themselves?).

Now, if there was a simple test before admittance to a voter booth I could be swayed otherwise. Name the three branches of US government, who was the first president, etc. Same stuff a newly minted US citizen needs to answer. We'd be shocked to see the results amongst our own constituency.

I also disagree with getting rid of the electoral college. Otherwise it's just a few big cities electing the president. You are dead on about the tax thing though. In my opinion, all major problems in the country stem from the tax system. I used to think requiring a high school diploma to vote would do some good but with the state of education now I'm not so sure. I would like to see a tax qualification to vote. If you don't pay taxes, you don't vote. Interestingly, that would be unnecessary with the Fair Tax. Everyone would pay taxes at the same rate and have a stake in the country. Everyone would have an interest in keeping taxes as low as possible because no one could vote to raise someone else's taxes without raising their own.
 
Nice find, Steve.

I've asked it before, how to get folks off of their behinds without getting everyone tossed in the clink for violating the "patriot act?" We've had our civil rights so gradually eroded, so insidiously proscribed, that the truths of the founding documents read like so many words to me now.

I have no issues with mandatory service. For folks with a verifiable medical condition, waivers. All otherwise healthy folks get some training.

So many of us are distracted and obsessed with consumerist gee-gaws and spectator activities -- mobile phones, mp3 players, flat screens, nascar, football, wrestling, mma (the list goes on) -- things that distract from being engaged with the functioning of the country. I'm guilty, too. Government is not a spectator sport.

I was listening to cspan in my car, they were playing recorded bits from Jay Leno where he interviews people (sounded like high school kids) about very basic political notions -- what's the name of the president? -- and these folks just flat out did not have a clue. Scary.

Definitely a fan of reforming the tax code, too. I like the idea of not getting to vote if you're not paying.

I think that the electoral college question is trickier. I agree with AJ, there's a reason why we have the electoral college. Not that it's working all that well presently. I don't know that the problem is with the college so much as with the work it has to do. What I'd really love to see is our system playing host to more than the current two parties. If we had real choice, a real multi-party system, then we wouldn't get these over-simplified (red or blue) choices. Then the politicians might actually have to think and do a little work.
 
scary times we live in.. crazzy people with crazzy idea's.. especially when people talk about uprising and changing things.. i dont agree that everything is fine and dandy, but when people talk likes.. sometimes i wonder if they have thought everything through.. checked out all the angles.. because some of the best idea's have turned out to be some of our worst.. think nucular power.. we had what?? 20-30 years of just fear and looking over your sholder.. not my cup of tea...

besides.. you know some people will take this the complete wrong way and bam, homegrown terrorism...

oh and .. the whole world is run by the iluminati... social engineering at its best :)
 
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