Don't use the frame sliders......

[manju]

I have droped my bike around 30km/h,
the frame sliders like a bottle opener striped
my bike frame......

This pictures are took after recover by TIG welding~~

 

[HavBlue]

I have never used sliders on my FZ6 and probably won't for this very reason. Granted, they may or may not prevent the bike from being totaled but one thing is for certain, they dang sure won't help protect much. I think it best not to go down in the first place.....

 

[Boneman]

That's a pretty bold statement considering all the hundreds of different vaiables that will effect the outcome! Road conditions, speed, road surface, how the bike went down, etc. Your sliders didn't seem to help your bike in "THIS" particular situation. By the looks of it, the slider dug into the road surface to cause this damage.

My sliders have saved me from a lot of scuffs and scratches when I did a 'stop and flop' in a parking lot. Without sliders, it would have messed up my bike and was the main reason I bought them. I don't expect them to save my bike from anything much over parking lot speeds.

I don't think anyone expects sliders to save their enitre bike from a crash, but more to hopefully reduce the level of damage to the bike. I have to say that your extensive frame damage caused by sliders is a first I've ever seen. Perhaps it's cause was also do to a flaw in your frame? The percentage of damage caused BY sliders vs. damage saved by sliders is proably far less. Very unfortunate none the less. But hey, what damage a frame slider causes or can't save, is what insurance is for!

 

[grommit]

What type of frame sliders were they; make, construction?

 

[manju]

I recommend using the " Engine Guard"

http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-technical/1136-yamaha-fz6-engine-guard.html

Which is much better than sliders...
for "Stop and Drop" slidersis OK....but

Even if very slow spped drop on concrete, the screw will be wrench.......
The frame also easy to damage ~ because left/rear engine mount is weak point , it's really thin you can touch it and which may only 2~3mm thin aluminum

 

[reiobard]

No offense but that dosen't seem to make sense. it was probably some strange variable that caused it, i know that the bolts on sliders are generally designed to break if there is that much force on them and to just slide along typically. did the bolt bend or break at all? did it catch on anything?

 

[manju]

What type of frame sliders were they; make, construction?

Unknow brand name, the length of sliders around 5 inch.
Black plastic with alum. rod~~~~

 

[manju]

No offense but that dosen't seem to make sense. it was probably some strange variable that caused it, i know that the bolts on sliders are generally designed to break if there is that much force on them and to just slide along typically. did the bolt bend or break at all? did it catch on anything?

The bolt destortion, I think the sliders jam in rugged concrete and slide

 

[reiobard]

i do like the engine guard that you posted a link to but does it do anything for the top half of the bike?

That is a shame about the broken mount on your bike and hope it was just a fluke. I might look into some hybrid when i use the guard and some sliders.

 

[DefyInertia]

Unknow brand name, the length of sliders around 5 inch.
Black plastic with alum. rod~~~~

That's your problem right there. Buy a quality crash tested product next time and hope for the best. There is a reason everyone at the race track uses sliders.
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[Boneman]

That's your problem right there. Buy a quality crash tested product next time and hope for the best. There is a reason everyone at the race track uses sliders.

^^Bingo! :thumbup:

 

[grommit]

That's your problem right there. Buy a quality crash tested product next time and hope for the best. There is a reason everyone at the race track uses sliders.

What he said.

 

[reiobard]

100% the good ones are designed to take what they can but break before causing damage to the frame.

 

[Maverick]

There are a lot of sliders out there. Some companies are only interested in your money, while good brands do research and design the product carefully.

You often get what you pay for...

The engine guard is designed to protect the engine only and from lower speed crashes than the frame sliders. Good sliders will protect at higher speed crashes and is designed to help protect the fairing, engine, and frame.

 

[KUMAJ]

Allow my intruption. I think 5 inch is too long. Also, Engineering prastic shouldn't be used and, PP Plastics are better for use(to absorb shocks). I'll install engine guard and frame slider in this year.

 

[Maverick]

Yamaha uses Dupont's Delrin which is an "engineering plastic". Not sure what year the OP has, but the Yamaha sliders and Yamaha engine guard can not be used together on 2007 model.

 

[reiobard]

Yamaha uses Dupont's Delrin which is an "engineering plastic". Not sure what year the OP has, but the Yamaha sliders and Yamaha engine guard can not be used together on 2007 model.

Thats a shame, i wasn't sure of the mounting points but it would be nice if both could be used in conjunction with each other.

 

[Maverick]

Thats a shame, i wasn't sure of the mounting points but it would be nice if both could be used in conjunction with each other.

It might be due to the Yamaha slider bracket... it drops/ lowers the slider down from the typical slider location... maybe someone knows if the Yamaha guard will work with an after-market slider...?

 

[Botch]

I actually bought my sliders for the more mundane accidents, like forgetting to put down the kickstand, hitting a curb, etc. Once I'm up to 30 mph or so, I'll be a lot more worried about my bones than my bike.

 

[Maverick]

I actually bought my sliders for the more mundane accidents, like forgetting to put down the kickstand, hitting a curb, etc. Once I'm up to 30 mph or so, I'll be a lot more worried about my bones than my bike.

Good point! That's why I recommend people wear full gear too! Actually, we need to remember to mod our gear not just the bike!