Thanks for the post, cannot resist a sale price... gah! *another* xmas present for me, at this rate I'm going to get disowned very shortly 
Throttle Tamer: Not bad.
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Timebomb7585
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How difficult is the install?
chomorro
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I received mine already, super fast shipping. I will install it tomorrow, hopefully i wont have to mess with the cable slack just in case i hate it i can just pop the old one back on.
Timebomb7585
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I adjusted the slack down to about an 1/8" last night. Went out for a ride today and it really helped the snatchyness.
DefyInertia
Former '04 FZ6 Rider
I think I'm going to ignore this advice....
Mine is set at 1600 and shifting is smoother, if different at all. The engine is never spinning at idle speed when I downshift regardless of what I have the idle set at.
I'm not a mechanic but I would think the only "major" downside would be the bike's tendency to run hotter in stop and go traffic.
Thoughts?
ChevyFazer
Redneck MacGyver
Ya mine is set pretty close to 1600 as well, your idle speed won't affect shifting while riding unless you pull in the clutch and coast for a long time then it's going to be rough trying to shift reguardless
chomorro
Junior Member
:BLAA: Rode for an hour on side streets and freeway with the tamer. I have to say I like it a lot, and im mad i havent been using it since i bought the bike.
Starts are smoother, shifts are smoother, and it didnt seem to slow down at all on the freeway. I like it :thumbup:. Havent tried any twisties yet but it should be a much smoother response.
I had to move my brake reservoir and starter switch in just a few cm because the g2 tamer is slightly longer then my stock throttle tube. This caused my HVMP heavy bar ends to close on it when tightened, and stopped the tamer from moving freely. This is on an FZ1 bar. After adjustment everything went smooth. My first take off was tricky but after a few starts i got used to it and loved it.
I did not adjust anything, i just swapped the tubes and left it as is, including stock idle. My throttle play is the same as it was before.
So this is coming from someone who didnt mind the stock throttle on off behavior. Two thumbs up, great product :rockon:
Starts are smoother, shifts are smoother, and it didnt seem to slow down at all on the freeway. I like it :thumbup:. Havent tried any twisties yet but it should be a much smoother response.
I had to move my brake reservoir and starter switch in just a few cm because the g2 tamer is slightly longer then my stock throttle tube. This caused my HVMP heavy bar ends to close on it when tightened, and stopped the tamer from moving freely. This is on an FZ1 bar. After adjustment everything went smooth. My first take off was tricky but after a few starts i got used to it and loved it.
I did not adjust anything, i just swapped the tubes and left it as is, including stock idle. My throttle play is the same as it was before.
So this is coming from someone who didnt mind the stock throttle on off behavior. Two thumbs up, great product :rockon:
FizzySix
Drunken Philosopher
I set my idle higher on my second season or so with the bike (1500 maybe?), mostly just to make take-offs easier: rather than concentrating on fishing around the rpm range for the the level needed to avoid stalling and take off with authority, it was already close, and I can focus more on anticipating what the other vehicles will do.
No perceivable impact on temps, mileage, etc...she just sings at a slightly higher note while waiting at intersections.
A 15T sprocket also helped, as well as Killernoodle's clutch slave lever. The new throttle tube should move the experience even closer to what the way it's "supposed" to behave: a nice smooooth takeoff followed by by the screamin' acceleration we all love.
I've almost got it to the the way it should have been off the factory line.
DefyInertia
Former '04 FZ6 Rider
I received mine tonight an installed it. The installation required power tools.
I have the stock handlebar and stock bar end weights and found that the tube was about 1.5 mm too long as the bar end weight was binding on the tube when torqued down. [not sure how they got this wrong] Given the choice of drilling a new hole in my handlebar to fit the little nub on the twist grip casing, grinding down the bar end weight, or grinding down the throttle tube, I went with grinding down the bar end weight slightly. Now everything works perfectly.
I didn't get a chance to ride the bike tonight, but will tomorrow.
I've done the following mods:
- Throttle tamer
- Killernoodle's second Gen clutch slave lever
- 15T up front
- just about zero throttle play
- ~1,600 RPM idle
I've done ZERO mods to the intake and exhaust systems...and no PCIII.
I have the stock handlebar and stock bar end weights and found that the tube was about 1.5 mm too long as the bar end weight was binding on the tube when torqued down. [not sure how they got this wrong] Given the choice of drilling a new hole in my handlebar to fit the little nub on the twist grip casing, grinding down the bar end weight, or grinding down the throttle tube, I went with grinding down the bar end weight slightly. Now everything works perfectly.
I didn't get a chance to ride the bike tonight, but will tomorrow.
I've done the following mods:
- Throttle tamer
- Killernoodle's second Gen clutch slave lever
- 15T up front
- just about zero throttle play
- ~1,600 RPM idle
I've done ZERO mods to the intake and exhaust systems...and no PCIII.
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Its kinda BS that YOU have to grind down the end to make it the same as the stock throttle tube.. I agree, that's what I would have done as well..
I'd give them a call or drop a note about the lenth, its really a safety hazard if a newbe installs it and doesn't notice the throttle grabbing the bar end or releasing slowly...
As a side note, I keep my idle at 1,000 (doesn't clunk as bad going into first and I want the engine braking as well). When riding the twisties, I keep the RPM's at least 5K, no clutch mods, stock levers, Scorps, no PC.
I don't have any problems getting rolling nor any snatchyness as it sits... Maybe the 07 and up is better, FI wise, the higher RPM's when riding aggressivly as well...
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DefyInertia
Former '04 FZ6 Rider
Rode today...the bike has been transformed.
opfpqgoon
Junior Member
Okay so I have been reading a lot about this throttle tamer recently. All is does is change the geometry of the slope on which the throttle cable rests right? So could an adventurous (and admittedly frugal/cheap/insert your own adjective) soul just take the stock throttle tube and shave away some to match that of the G2??
If so this would be a nice $64 saved.
If so this would be a nice $64 saved.
chomorro
Junior Member
I had the same problem but no nub on my controls so sliding it down a few mm was easy peasy. But if i had just put it on and taken off i might have crashed from the throttle not returning properly. Maybe they should be notified.
chomorro
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I dont think this would work because they also increase the lobe size right after the low lobe to compensate and not make open throttle acceleration any slower. So basically real light throttle is much smoother but getting on it is the same as stock.
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I believe the initial ramp (early throttle) is lessened (closer to the handlebar) and then extends outward increasing the throttle movement in the upper end of the movement.
Unless you can mold pastic, I don't see how you could make your own. I would be very cautious attempting this as any failure could have potentially bad results....
X-mas is coming up, maybe leave an ad and how to order laying about with a note of how you'd reelly like this????
I installed mine this weekend. It definitely does make scooting around town a bit more pleasant. And while it does not change the intensity of the jump at roll-on caused by the fuel cut, it does make timing it a lot easier, which it pretty important. If I could get a FCE for the FZ6, I would probably still get the throttle tamer, but I'd consider it a finishing touch. As is, the throttle tamer is a best effort. Next stop: ECU reflash... This stuff is really adding up. Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy carburetors?
I believe the initial ramp (early throttle) is lessened (closer to the handlebar) and then extends outward increasing the throttle movement in the upper end of the movement.
Unless you can mold pastic, I don't see how you could make your own. I would be very cautious attempting this as any failure could have potentially bad results....
X-mas is coming up, maybe leave an ad and how to order laying about with a note of how you'd reelly like this????
I just bought and installed one, and I don't think modding the stock tube is wise. I don't think it would be hard to shave or cut the stock tube to the shape of the throttle tamer, and it would save you the trouble of having to cut off the end of the throttle tamer's tube, which is too long and had to be cut or else the throttle sticks -- very dangerous if you don't catch it! But if stock tube were modded, and the cam section of the stock plastic tube were weakened by the mod and broke on a ride, the throttle could get stuck open. (Or closed.) Could make for a real mess, and no telling when it might happen. Putting a metal, possibly grooved strip for support of the cable to safely distribute load over the milled or shaved section of the plastic cam could minimize this risk, but then you're running up against cost vs. difficulty vs. safety. This is one for the pros. Not to mention the fact that the inventor and marketers deserve some credit. For the price, I'm quite happy with mine. I did hope it would help more with the fuel cut, but it does make repeated starts and stops in urban traffic situations easier to do smoothly.
I should point out that the town I live in is about 1,000 feet (300 meters, or metres) above sea level. The bike runs richer as a result, making the fuel cut more noticeable.
fazil
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I've already installed rizoma grips long time ago and they had some natural throttle tamer, but i don't remember any changes after installation.
Is this throttle tamer thing function different then these rizoma grip apparatus?
Is this throttle tamer thing function different then these rizoma grip apparatus?
Is this throttle tamer thing function different then these rizoma grip apparatus?
The cam on the end of the throttle tamer looks pretty different. The first 90 degrees or so of twist on the throttle tamer look like it's intended to reduce the amount of cable that gets pulled. Those in your pic all look pretty round, so cable pull would be uniform across the range of twist. A smaller round cam would make the throttle easier to modulate at low speed, but might require annoyingly large extent of twist to get to WOT.
