My honda starting issues

[sfcali86]

so i have and fz6 but since we all like bikes i need help.. i have a honda 650, i charged my battery today, hit the start buton but all i hear is a click, its my seliniod. do you guys think my starter bad or my selinoid. can anybody give me there mechanical advice how can i check starter or seleniod. now there is rust on the seleniod might be a bad contact im kinda stuck... thanks

 

[OneTrack]

It could still be a battery issue.
The battery may not be able to deliver the amps required to engage the starter and turn the engine over.

 

[08fz6]

sounds like either battery or selinoid. Best thing to do is get a multi meter and see what the battery is putting out under load....if its a fast clicking or continuous sound then would say its the selinoid......if battery it would kinda fade....

 

[wolfc70]

Turn the ignition on and then short out the two big posts (with a big piece of metal, like a screwdriver or a wrench) on the solenoid. This will by pass the internal mechanism of the solenoid and send power to the starter. You will get sparks when you do this. In my past experience, certain Honda solenoids develop issues with the internal coil on the solenoid, thus not pulling the contact fully forward. If the shorting the terminals works, then you need a new solenoid. If this does not work, then clean and check all connections on the battery, solenoid and starter. If you still have no luck, then I would suspect the battery.

 

[champion221elite]

Turn the ignition on and then short out the two big posts (with a big piece of metal, like a screwdriver or a wrench) on the solenoid. This will by pass the internal mechanism of the solenoid and send power to the starter. You will get sparks when you do this. In my past experience, certain Honda solenoids develop issues with the internal coil on the solenoid, thus not pulling the contact fully forward. If the shorting the terminals works, then you need a new solenoid. If this does not work, then clean and check all connections on the battery, solenoid and starter. If you still have no luck, then I would suspect the battery.

Good advice Wolfc70! One other thing to keep in mind while bypassing the solenoid is to MAKE CERTAIN your bike is in neutral before sticking a screwdriver between those two contact posts. If the bike is in gear, it has the potential to cause damage to itself and all surroundings.

If the bike starts by shorting out the contact posts on the solenoid, you've just located your problem. If the bike fails to start after shorting out the posts, you need to start assessing the health of the battery.

 

[wolfc70]

Good advice Wolfc70! One other thing to keep in mind while bypassing the solenoid is to MAKE CERTAIN your bike is in neutral before sticking a screwdriver between those two contact posts. If the bike is in gear, it has the potential to cause damage to itself and all surroundings.

If the bike starts by shorting out the contact posts on the solenoid, you've just located your problem. If the bike fails to start after shorting out the posts, you need to start assessing the health of the battery.

Good Point!! I usually forget that part, mainly because I put the bike on the center stand, so the rear wheel is off the ground. Actually all of my bikes have had centerstands now that I think about it.:eyebrow: So if you do not have a center stand, make sure the bike is in neutral.

 

[sfcali86]

thanks guys ill give that a shot right now

 

[04fizzer]

Good advice Wolfc70! One other thing to keep in mind while bypassing the solenoid is to MAKE CERTAIN your bike is in neutral before sticking a screwdriver between those two contact posts. If the bike is in gear, it has the potential to cause damage to itself and all surroundings.

If the bike starts by shorting out the contact posts on the solenoid, you've just located your problem. If the bike fails to start after shorting out the posts, you need to start assessing the health of the battery.

You generally have to hold the clutch in for it to work if it is in gear, due to the clutch switch.

 

[wolfc70]

You generally have to hold the clutch in for it to work if it is in gear, due to the clutch switch.

If you short out the solenoid, you do not have to worry about the clutch switch. The clutch switch is part of the starting circuit, but is only involved with the starter button on the handle bar. By shorting out the power terminals on the starter solenoid, you bypass all safety interlock items, as one side of the solenoid always has power from the battery. So by doing this method, the bike could start if it is in gear.

 

[04fizzer]

If you short out the solenoid, you do not have to worry about the clutch switch. The clutch switch is part of the starting circuit, but is only involved with the starter button on the handle bar. By shorting out the power terminals on the starter solenoid, you bypass all safety interlock items, as one side of the solenoid always has power from the battery. So by doing this method, the bike could start if it is in gear.

I went through this with my old KZ, and found that I had to pull the clutch for it to work. Maybe it as just the way it was wired.

 

[sfcali86]

Well I put a new battery there is voltage to my started I checked also to my relay I took my starter apart the brushes are worn but the armature is real bad think I'm going to get a new starter

 

[04fizzer]

Well I put a new battery there is voltage to my started I checked also to my relay I took my starter apart the brushes are worn but the armature is real bad think I'm going to get a new starter

Did you even TRY jumping the solenoid? 9 times out of 10 that's what the problem is, especially when you say there's a "clicking" sound. You're wasting time and money without trying that FIRST.

 

[sfcali86]

yes I tried jumping it starter does nothing but seliniid sparks I have a brand new battery I charged the old one but it wasn't holding a charge I'm stumped still