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MotoCzysz electric motor on dyno

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"Electric motor performance meet or exceed 600cc supersport engines"??? 100+HP & 250ft.lb of torque!!!! lol The future looks good! :rockon:


While the video of MotoCzysz putting their new D1-10 electric motor up on the dyno is not terribly captivating (it’s hard to see anything really moving since all the fun bits are inside the motor’s casings), the performance figures the company quotes surely are impressive. The liquid-cooled IPM motor makes 250lbs•ft of torque, generates over 100hp, and employs a proprietary cooling system to allow a higher percentage of that peak power to be used over extended periods of time. This is particularly important because of the large gap between peak power figures and sustainable power figures in the electric motorcycle world, with the latter being the more important figure to quote.

With performance qualities that meet or exceede those of a 600cc Supersport machine, MotoCzysz hopes to have one of the most formidable packages available on the electric grid this season. The D1-10 D1g1tal Dr1ve is just one element of MotoCzysz’ eDD “suitcase” that is available to teams for purchase. The eDD total package also includes a controller assembly, battery mounting system, and optional Li batteries all for around the price of $24,500 w/o batteries and $42,000 with batteries. No word if the first commercially available electric motor specifically designed for motorcycles will be available separately from the eDD. Stay tuned on that.

Of note on the video below, MotoCzysz states that the drive shaft was disconnected from the motor, and all the sound recorded is generated by the motor alone. In addition, the motor’s high RPM was creating some real dyno “instability” that saw not only the highest torque recorded on the MotoCzysz dyno, but also the highest RPM.

video here: Video: MotoCzysz D1-10 Electric Motor on the Dyno
 
It's cool that Czysz is branching out into electrics..... what happened with his engine design? Did that fail to find a market?
I'd like to know that too. Saw a brilliant doco on him last year - would love to see how far he got with his bike development
 
42k with batteries? fook me

and how long will they last 30-50kms?
1-2hrs?

the electric motors are not the issue as they can produce big numbers easy
it is teh battery tech that is the issue, in a car not so bad as u can do a hybrid install ( aka that toyo that cant stop :P )
cant do that ona bike at all

untill the tech is at a stage where bateries can last the same as a tank of fuel
and allow for quick re charge ie 15- 20 mins elec bikes will be just a concept and out of reach for the avg user
 
I'd like to know that too. Saw a brilliant doco on him last year - would love to see how far he got with his bike development

It's really tough to break into the high performance world on your first 'jump'.... Twin contra rotating crankshafts? That's a complex solution, that affects many other aspects of the overall design. Sort of like BMW's K bikes, without the 'torque steer' twisting the chassis around the long axis. Add in funky front and rear suspension, and you have a lot of development to do to make it all work....... and a bigger pig in the python, if you want it to go to mass production....

Competing with people who have been refining the same fundamental design for 20+ years digging out 1% gains year on year -- you don't walk in with a 'clean slate' design, and match the very best of that sort of development.

Triumph tried to go toe to toe with the Japanese with their first 600cc inline sport bike. A good motor, good performance, but didn't match up. Tough to do that; so they built the 675, and are no longer directly compared. Now, they are successful.

H-D tried to develop a vee twin liter bike, and go racing with it. After 5 years, they pulled the plug, and turned the mess over to Porsche. The V Rod is a very distant cousin to that effort. Buell was not a part of that effort.

More recently, here in the Portland OR area, the Norton name was brought back, and it too died 'abirthing'. Great motor, great bike.... not enough money. That one is being brought back by someone with a bit deeper pockets, but I suspect it too will crash.

Indian? Let's not go there. :D

Victory, with Polaris' money, was expected to lose money for it's first 5 or 6 years. I assume it's now in the black, but they didn't get there without re-doing their signature motor, and bringing in Arlen Ness and his kid to design customs..... Big, big money.
 
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