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Lorenzo unhappy with Rossi battle tactics

It was a fantastic battle and Lorenzo just needs to get over it. Maybe he's just jealous that Rossi has made such a quick come back:thumbup:
He needs some CHEESE to go with the WINE:BLAA:

Jerry

That kind of battle is why we watch this stuff! :D
 
Lorenzo is a pretentious pussy.

Not surprisingly his countrymen feel the same. Must be hard bordering France....

http://motomatters.com/news/2010/10/04/spanish_media_accusing_rossi_of_jump_sta.html

It will come as no surprise that Valentino Rossi's brutal entanglement with Jorge Lorenzo during the last couple of laps of the Japanese MotoGP Grand Prix at Motegi did not go down well in Spain. With Spain on the verge of only their second World Championship in premier class motorcycle racing, and after a whole year of extraordinary sporting achievement for Spain, race fans on the Iberian peninsula are getting more protective than usual of the MotoGP stars, and so Rossi's manhandling of Lorenzo was not very well received. With the passes being clearly legal - though arguments continue to rage over the wisdom of such moves - the media in Spain has turned its attention elsewhere.

Spanish TV broadcaster TVE is now claiming that Valentino Rossi made a jump start prior to the MotoGP race at Motegi, and that his failure to be penalized was a failure by Race Direction. The video on the TVE website (only accessible in Spain, readers outside of Spain with a MotoGP.com subscription can will have to watch the full race video on MotoGP.com at around the 21:26 minute mark) appears to show Rossi creeping forward a fraction of a second before the red lights went out, in breach of section 1.18 subsection 14) of the FIM Grand Prix regulations, which state the following:

Any rider who anticipates the start will be required to carry out the ride through described under article 1.19.

Anticipation of the start is defined by the motorcycle moving forward when the red lights are on.

Close examination of the video does appear to confirm that Rossi rolled forward a fraction at the start of the race, though any movement is minimal. Race Direction - who review the start of every race - either did not spot the movement, or did not judge it to be an infringement of the rules. Rossi was not penalized, and did not have to perform a ride through.

If Rossi moved - which he probably did, fractionally - the advantage he gained was at best marginal, and at worst non-existent, so why all the fuss? The answer is simple: If Rossi had been given a ride through - a decision Race Direction have to take within four laps of the start - the Italian would have lost between 20 and 30 seconds coming into the pits, riding along pit lane at the maximum speed limit of 60 km/h, and then back out onto the track. Upon completing the ride through, Rossi would have rejoined the race either at the back, or very close to it. The last-lap dust-up between himself and Lorenzo would never have happened, and Lorenzo would have been back on the podium, and 3 points closer to clinching his first MotoGP championship, the first one for Spain since Alex Criville in 1999.

The Spanish media's anger at the lack of a ride through runs deeper: The Spanish contingent in the MotoGP paddock has long felt that Valentino Rossi is given preferential treatment by Race Direction, under pressure from Dorna (ironically, a Spanish company). Rossi is the series' main meal ticket, and there have been a number of incidents where there has been the suspicion that Rossi has gone unpunished because to do so would have been hugely unpopular with the fans. Most of all, the Spanish media (and many Spanish fans) have never forgiven Rossi for the pass he pulled at Jerez in 2005, when he dived up the inside of Sete Gibernau in the final corner, just as Gibernau tried to close the door on him. The pair came together and Gibernau ran wide, leaving Rossi to win the race and setting the tone for the championship. Gibernau was never a threat for the championship again, and the Spanish media has never gotten over that. With Lorenzo so close to becoming champion, and showing the potential to win several more, the prospect of losing that is too much for the Spanish to bear.
 
There were some great passes during the race, and if Jorge was so worried about them, why didn't he just sit behind Rossi after the first one and protect his championship. Yeah, Rossi's passes were a bit "dirty", but if I was leading the championship, I think I would have sat behind him.

I thought Rossi jumped the start a bit, hard to tell with the view on TV though. Mayube he just had a better reaction time than everyone else... Although, I do believe he's a "protected species" with direction from Dorna.

:rockon:
 
Rossi had bigger balls. He always wins those kind of battles.

Mike called a jump start by Rossi when he saw it.


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Rossi had bigger balls. He always wins those kind of battles.

Mike called a jump start by Rossi when he saw it.


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Rossi only "wins" those battles, cause he knows he can get away with it, much like Schumacher when he ruled F1....

Rossi & Schumacher are cut from the same cloth.....win at all costs, let his position in the scene of things take care of the fact that he wont get sanctioned....protected species....a protected dirty tricks playing species that is...
 
Rossi only "wins" those battles, cause he knows he can get away with it, much like Schumacher when he ruled F1....

Rossi & Schumacher are cut from the same cloth.....win at all costs, let his position in the scene of things take care of the fact that he wont get sanctioned....protected species....a protected dirty tricks playing species that is...


I missed seeing the last motogp race (I set the computer up to record it, but it must have crashed...grrrrr!) But I remember watching some of Schumachers battles with Damon Hill in Adelaide, and later Villeneuve, where Schumacher was in a corner, facing losing the championship, and he'd play dirty, trying to barge his opponent off the road by diving up the inside, knowing he wouldn't make it through the corner. It worked with Hill, but failed against Villeneuve.

I remember the same thing with Rossi and Gibernau a few years ago. Sete wasn't a threat after that.

I'm all for close racing and lead swapping, but not swapping paint and barging others off the road.
 
Rossi knows how to ruffle some feathers when the gloves come off. He practically punted Sete off the track at Jerez & people called Sete a sook when he labeled Rossi a dirty racer. Stoner was also bagged when Rossi gave him the good news at the Corkscrew & Casey spoke out against him.

Now Lorenzo wants to point the finger :eek: He can whine all he likes cos Rossi won't be losing any sleep over it. Like every other time he has pulled this caper he sits back & laughs while the media & fans pour cold water over his accuser.
 
Rossi only "wins" those battles, cause he knows he can get away with it, much like Schumacher when he ruled F1....

Rossi & Schumacher are cut from the same cloth.....win at all costs, let his position in the scene of things take care of the fact that he wont get sanctioned....protected species....a protected dirty tricks playing species that is...

Yeah.

:D


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Sete lost it mentally. A better minded rider wouldn't have let Rossi or ANY rider get one over them.


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Sete lost it mentally. A better minded rider wouldn't have let Rossi or ANY rider get one over them.


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No doubt Rossi got inside his head & finished him but Sete has fair reason to upset with this move. Show Jorge has nothing to complain about really :D
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m35LqM3kto]YouTube - Rossi Gibernau[/ame]
 
Im no Rossi fan (as its regulary stated), but Jorge HTFU mate.

Could swear through the set of S bends out the back of the oval, Jorge was pushing Rossi onto the grass.

Kettle, Black, Pot ? ? ? ? ? ?
 
Rossi only "wins" those battles, cause he knows he can get away with it, much like Schumacher when he ruled F1....

Rossi & Schumacher are cut from the same cloth.....win at all costs, let his position in the scene of things take care of the fact that he wont get sanctioned....protected species....a protected dirty tricks playing species that is...

Dorna is certainly not going to hurt their golden boy, thats for sure.

Everybody knows that Rossi can be a bastard, when it comes down to it...
But he does not have anything to lose, except beating the snot out of Lorenzo for the last races. Rossi is not friends with anybody who poses a
threat to his domination, which has faltered a bit in the last years but anyway.

Lorenzo knows, like everybody else, what Rossi is like during the close battles.
And now when he is about to become a world champion, there is no reason what so ever to mess that up by crashing, because of a stupid pissing contest.

P.S.
Maybe Rossi was(and still is) pissed at Yamaha, because they wouldn't allow him to
test the Ducati after Valencia :spank:
 
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