Clutchless Shifting!!

[Zack]

I have a real hard time shifting without the clutch. My normal driving involves the clutch but its when im flipping through gears redlining the bike is where i try to shift quickly without using the clutch and sometimes it works effortlessly and other times it gets stuck and i end up hitting the rev limiter which isnt cool

Any tips?

 

[Shafe716]

It's going to be a bit harder that high since the engine is going to start to slow down much faster than at lower RPM's. What this means to you is the timing has to be perfect. at Lower RPM's you don't have to be as precise because the engine wont put the pressure on the clutch as fast.

 

[inkrediboy]

I've seen this discussed a million other times on the forum and others - so do a search around for other advise.

Best advice overall - regardless of RPM range - preload the shifter with upforce right before you let off the throttle a bit- and it will peek right into gear position. Give the toe shifter pre push upwards (not fully loaded weight) roll on at the same time, when ready to shift, back off throttle a hair, and let that pre-upwards push it into gear for you with a little more force.

When done right, your transition into the next plane will feel almost invisible with a new RPM power band with no short loss of rev typically associated with clutching.

 

[Zack]

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind and work on that. Maybe thats how i was able to do those other fast shifts that seemed effortless..

 

[inkrediboy]

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind and work on that. Maybe thats how i was able to do those other fast shifts that seemed effortless..

Brother Zack - yeah, preload it, take a bit of getting used to - and unlearning the impulse to clutch is probably the hardest part Preload the toe up - you will see immediate improvement.

 

[Bram]

Today I learned the technique of clutchless shifting.
It worked like a charm.
from first to second ALWAYS use clutch (because you have to pass neutral)
from 2nd gear to 6th gear I don't use the clutch anymore.

in my case, it goes with any RPM. it's all in the dosis of throttle and timing.

first start driving in first, then let's say I rev to 5K, than second gear.
again throttle on to 5K (or anything you want) and when you want to shift, you have to find the sweet spot whith the throttle where the bike is not accelerating anymore, but is also not slowing down. It all comes down to the tention of the chain, it has to be as low as possible for smooth transition. when you find that sweet spot, just shift gears, and throttle on again.
the moment that you backoff the throttle, you have to shift.

this whole description happens in 1/4 second. if you are to hard on the throttle when shifting, the bike will jump forward and you will hear a big clunk.

when done right, there will be no jumping forward, no clunking, and is a much smoother ride.

 

[The Inja]

Today I learned the technique of clutchless shifting.
It worked like a charm.
from first to second ALWAYS use clutch (because you have to pass neutral)
from 2nd gear to 6th gear I don't use the clutch anymore.

in my case, it goes with any RPM. it's all in the dosis of throttle and timing.

first start driving in first, then let's say I rev to 5K, than second gear.
again throttle on to 5K (or anything you want) and when you want to shift, you have to find the sweet spot whith the throttle where the bike is not accelerating anymore, but is also not slowing down. It all comes down to the tention of the chain, it has to be as low as possible for smooth transition. when you find that sweet spot, just shift gears, and throttle on again.
the moment that you backoff the throttle, you have to shift.

this whole description happens in 1/4 second. if you are to hard on the throttle when shifting, the bike will jump forward and you will hear a big clunk.

when done right, there will be no jumping forward, no clunking, and is a much smoother ride.

What he said. My lil fizzer jumps right into the next gear up no matter where my RPM is. Not sure why yours would be having some trouble with it. Just make sure you don't break teeth off your gears forcing it into the next gear. Be careful, but I'm sure you're fine!

Here's my first attempt at a clutchless upshift! haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJXU6XGdOZ8

And my reasons to clutchless shift: have fun racing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiLXw9mJhFA