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far out! 40000km service makes me nervous!

Yeah mikey, the beast has felt a bit sluggish since getting back from PI! That run, was the bikes last hoorah before getting what it needs...plugs, throttle sync, valves, new oil, and by the looks of it, a new chain!

Getting excited now!
 
Ok, bike has been dropped off for it's service...And guess what, i got a XJ6N demo bike as my loan bike for the day....pity i have got a day full of work in my office, otherwise, i would take it for a decent blat...especially as it has a full Two Brothers exhaust system, headers included...and my god, it has a fruity, loud sound, and that is with the baffles in!!! Pops like a mother, on the over-rev...

Took some photo's of the beasty! sorta goes ok, but same as FZ6, you gotta get it working above 8000rpm, before it get's grooving...and then the power shuts down a bit earlier than on the FZ6, and it lacks the same zing the FZ6 has right up top, all the love is between 8000 - 11000rpm...but still, it's ok...

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While i was at the shop, i looked at tyres, and am tossing up between getting Pirelli Supercorsa's (SC1 front, SC2 rear), or BT003's????

Also ordered a new set of GYTR 520 sprockets (14/47), and a Quadra Xring 520 chain in gold....

Plus a tank pad....same tattoo design as the Moto Graffix tank pad that i already have...

Also saw a really nice Honda VTR SP1, with arrows pipe, bigger airbox, PC111, underseat, intergrated brake light and indicators...very nice! $11900....wonder what the "real" price is???

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Well my bike is back home....

New Motul 5100 oil & oil filter...not 7100 as requested!!!!!!!! In fact, when i turned up to get the bike, they denied that 7100 existed!!!! I laughed, and told them they are on drugs! cause i have 2 half empty bottles of it sitting in my workshop! Still 5100 is way better than that Yamalube junk!

New Plugs...NGK.

Valves adjusted, throttle bodies sync'd.

Brake fluid changed... Motul RBF600 Racing fluid

Coolant drained, and replaced...shell coolant.

The bike still needs new sprockets, and chain, which i will do when they come in....GYTR sprockets, NGK Chain, quadra x-ring.

Now for the critique...well i didnt realise how sluggish the beast had become! i knew it need an oil change, and new sprockets, and chain, but sheesh, as Mikey told me...i would notice a big difference from the throttle bodies being adjusted!!! Well, the answer is YES!

I think the combo of a valve adjust, new plugs, and syncing of the throttle bodies has worked to return the bike to it's former aggressive self....was lifting the front wheel wit ease, all the way home, and pulling like a 14 year old boy again!

Brake fluid must of been tired too, especially after the PI run...as the brakes are now razor sharp...even did a stoppie, or two, to test them! :D:D:D

Only thing is, all this cost me $662!!!! $443 for labour,$219 for consumables...$60 for oil, $40 for coolant< $33 for brake fluid, $28 for Oil Filter (robbery), $43 for spark plugs!!!!, $7 for a chain link.....just plain rude!!!! i did get to keep the excess oil, and brake fluid...woop woop!!! Lol!

Am very happy with the bike after the service, but the cost just reiterated to me why i do all this stuff, bar the internal engine stuff myself...these pri*** charge like wounded bulls...

Anyway, thats the last time the bike will go to a dealership for any work until 80000km's click over for the next valve adjustment!!!

Job done, bike sorted, Wolf is much poorer, but also happy with the result!

Now i think i can relax for the first time since i booked the bike in!

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I know i can get an oil filter for $16,
 
Took some photo's of the beasty! sorta goes ok, but same as FZ6, you gotta get it working above 8000rpm, before it get's grooving...and then the power shuts down a bit earlier than on the FZ6, and it lacks the same zing the FZ6 has right up top, all the love is between 8000 - 11000rpm...but still, it's ok...

i took the demo from my work for a ride this week and found pretty much the same thing as you, i thought that the power seemed to be smoother from right down all the way to the limiter:spank:;) As you said doesnt have that surge and rush of the fz through the revs. i did like how my knees tucked into a nice sort of indent in the plastic (im short) and stayed there nice and tucked away. It handled well on my normal test road with a few twists and turns getting right to the edge of the tyre. I dont like how plascticy it is overall, it has plastic bits everywhere! They are nice but compared the the fz they are as you said ok, with the fz a better overall bike
 
i took the demo from my work for a ride this week and found pretty much the same thing as you, i thought that the power seemed to be smoother from right down all the way to the limiter:spank:;) As you said doesnt have that surge and rush of the fz through the revs. i did like how my knees tucked into a nice sort of indent in the plastic (im short) and stayed there nice and tucked away. It handled well on my normal test road with a few twists and turns getting right to the edge of the tyre. I dont like how plascticy it is overall, it has plastic bits everywhere! They are nice but compared the the fz they are as you said ok, with the fz a better overall bike

I have 2 FZ6's, one stock, one highly modified, both leave the XJ6 for dead, in terms of grunt, and braking....thought the handling of the XJ was pretty neutral, and very much like a stock FZ6...my guess is they have the same shock, and springs...

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Ok, bike has been dropped off for it's service...And guess what, i got a XJ6N demo bike as my loan bike for the day....pity i have got a day full of work in my office, otherwise, i would take it for a decent blat...especially as it has a full Two Brothers exhaust system, headers included...and my god, it has a fruity, loud sound, and that is with the baffles in!!! Pops like a mother, on the over-rev...

Took some photo's of the beasty! sorta goes ok, but same as FZ6, you gotta get it working above 8000rpm, before it get's grooving...and then the power shuts down a bit earlier than on the FZ6, and it lacks the same zing the FZ6 has right up top, all the love is between 8000 - 11000rpm...but still, it's ok...

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:thumbup:

While i was at the shop, i looked at tyres, and am tossing up between getting Pirelli Supercorsa's (SC1 front, SC2 rear), or BT003's????

Also ordered a new set of GYTR 520 sprockets (14/47), and a Quadra Xring 520 chain in gold....

Plus a tank pad....same tattoo design as the Moto Graffix tank pad that i already have...

Also saw a really nice Honda VTR SP1, with arrows pipe, bigger airbox, PC111, underseat, intergrated brake light and indicators...very nice! $11900....wonder what the "real" price is???

:rockon:

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We had 2001 SP1 - we still miss it.

Put scorpions on it. It was beautiful.

Mike still wants to buy another one.
 
i think it is the same shock but it has a different spring rate, the forks are different to they are ment to be 'smother' i actully have the yammy technical academy book next to me where they compare the new xj to the fz and reasons why things where changed, so if you would like to know why they changed somthing on it from the fz just ask:thumbup:
 
We had 2001 SP1 - we still miss it.

Put scorpions on it. It was beautiful.

Mike still wants to buy another one.

I just love em, always have....the temptation is killing me, i even sat on it, felt good, possibly painful on a long run...but converta bars would fix that!

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I just love em, always have....the temptation is killing me, i even sat on it, felt good, possibly painful on a long run...but converta bars would fix that!

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Did used to give Mike a backache after a lot of km's but he always said it was worth it. Was a bit worried he was going to lose his licence one day as he couldn't control himself on it.

One bad thing - pillion seat was as big as a postage stamp and the pegs made my knees knock my helmet..... :eek:
 
One bad thing - pillion seat was as big as a postage stamp and the pegs made my knees knock my helmet..... :eek:

Well i wouldnt bother putting a pillion on that perch...your right, it is an excuse for a seat!

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The mechanics really do themselves a disservice in the way they charge for work for motorcycles if you ask me.
We all know how much a filter or oil would cost if we went in and bought it in person, yet they seem to enjoy adding an extra 100% onto that price when they do the work for you, and thats not even including the hours they charge you for.
You would think they would sell the consumables just above cost so they are making something considering they are charging highway robbery for their time.
I mean I know how long it takes me to do things, so when I get a cost break down of what they did and how long it took, its easy to see when they did some very very imaginative hours worked for the end result. I mean I am extremely slow and careful, whats their excuse!
There is all the associated costs of the business of course, but they probably earn their wage in one day, and have the other 5 for all the other costs with what they charge!!!
 
The mechanics really do themselves a disservice in the way they charge for work for motorcycles if you ask me.
We all know how much a filter or oil would cost if we went in and bought it in person, yet they seem to enjoy adding an extra 100% onto that price when they do the work for you, and thats not even including the hours they charge you for.
You would think they would sell the consumables just above cost so they are making something considering they are charging highway robbery for their time.
I mean I know how long it takes me to do things, so when I get a cost break down of what they did and how long it took, its easy to see when they did some very very imaginative hours worked for the end result. I mean I am extremely slow and careful, whats their excuse!
There is all the associated costs of the business of course, but they probably earn their wage in one day, and have the other 5 for all the other costs with what they charge!!!

I see your viewpoint, but at the end of the day, they do have to make money...And a lot of the time, they have a lot of employees to pay, rent, government charges, and tax, etc, etc....

Not defending their overcharging, but being a business owner, i see where they are coming from...

It aint easy to run a business & survive!

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I see your viewpoint, but at the end of the day, they do have to make money...And a lot of the time, they have a lot of employees to pay, rent, government charges, and tax, etc, etc....

Not defending their overcharging, but being a business owner, i see where they are coming from...

It aint easy to run a business & survive!

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Yea I tried to reflect that in my post because I understand there would be alot of costs we don't see, but I know I do alot of the simple stuff myself simply because I can't afford to get it done, even though I would have better peace of mind if I did, and if prices where a bit more reasonable I probably would get alot more done for me.
I know with the old mechanic I used to go to they where always really honest about the work they did, what consumables went into it, and any problems I had after work and I could really trust them. Now there is no one I've found that is like that :(
 
Yea I tried to reflect that in my post because I understand there would be alot of costs we don't see, but I know I do alot of the simple stuff myself simply because I can't afford to get it done, even though I would have better peace of mind if I did, and if prices where a bit more reasonable I probably would get alot more done for me.
I know with the old mechanic I used to go to they where always really honest about the work they did, what consumables went into it, and any problems I had after work and I could really trust them. Now there is no one I've found that is like that :(

Yes, i think a lot of people try to do quite a bit themselves, myself included, as it gets quite expensive, if you use the dealerships for everything! Easy stuff, like changinmg oil & filter, adfjusting stuff, fitting stuff, etc...

The old style shops, where things were, ao are a lot cheaper, and getting fewer & far between, as these days, it is getting harder and harder to run a "cash" business...The Taxman has made it this way....

Not so many old blokes, running shops out of their back garage, so they can earn a bit of cash money on the side, cause these days, they wsill get caught up with!

So the dealerships are it! And they do everything by the book (well supposedly), and have to charge accordingly...building the cost of taxes, government fee's (environmental levy charges, workcover, etc), Uitlities (Gas, Electricity), wages, super, rent, liability insurance, etc, etc, into the cost of labour, price of goods, etc...

The "good guys" who try to give good old fashioned prices, and services, are normally the ones who end up going down the gurgla!!!!

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There's a lot to be said for the old style bike shops. You're right, not many of them any more.

The riding school where I got lessons actually hold basic bike maintenance classes - I think I should probably do that. Even though I have the wonderful Michael who washes and looks after my bike, I don't want to be one of these riders who can only fill it up with fuel!

Might take that course - it will come in handy when we buy our track bike.

I can do basic things on cars (well, not the new ones..) but nothing really on my bike.
 
There's a lot to be said for the old style bike shops. You're right, not many of them any more.

The riding school where I got lessons actually hold basic bike maintenance classes - I think I should probably do that. Even though I have the wonderful Michael who washes and looks after my bike, I don't want to be one of these riders who can only fill it up with fuel!

Might take that course - it will come in handy when we buy our track bike.

I can do basic things on cars (well, not the new ones..) but nothing really on my bike.

Yep, doing most of the work on your bike yourself, or in my case, with the help of a couple of decent mates, is very empowering, and it also gives you a sense of understanding re your bike, that you would not otherwise have...

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There's a lot to be said for the old style bike shops. You're right, not many of them any more.

The riding school where I got lessons actually hold basic bike maintenance classes - I think I should probably do that. Even though I have the wonderful Michael who washes and looks after my bike, I don't want to be one of these riders who can only fill it up with fuel!

Might take that course - it will come in handy when we buy our track bike.

I can do basic things on cars (well, not the new ones..) but nothing really on my bike.

Alot of the basics for the bike aren't too hard to pick up, its mainly having the tools, patience, and being slow and methodical so you don't break anything (talking from experience here :P)
Alot of the basic stuff such as tyre pressure, keeping your bike clean, checking all fluid levels, topping up fluids, changing the oil and filter, changing brake fluid, cleaning your chain, and checking for signs of wear or damage are easy to pick up from someone experienced.
The chain upkeep, as well as making sure your tyres and brake pads are in good condition would probably be some of the first I'd start with, followed by oil levels/changes and filter.

I've probably forgotten a few important things though :D

The most common thing I see with other riders is their chain in absolute disrepair, or almost bald tyres.
 
Alot of the basics for the bike aren't too hard to pick up, its mainly having the tools, patience, and being slow and methodical so you don't break anything (talking from experience here :P)
Alot of the basic stuff such as tyre pressure, keeping your bike clean, checking all fluid levels, topping up fluids, changing the oil and filter, changing brake fluid, cleaning your chain, and checking for signs of wear or damage are easy to pick up from someone experienced.
The chain upkeep, as well as making sure your tyres and brake pads are in good condition would probably be some of the first I'd start with, followed by oil levels/changes and filter.

I've probably forgotten a few important things though :D

The most common thing I see with other riders is their chain in absolute disrepair, or almost bald tyres.

All of this stuff, is exactly what the dealerships do at a minor service, and charge you $300 to do.....

Do it yourself is the answer, and it aint hard!

And if you break stuff, well it is still probably cheaper to replace it, than what it is going to cost you for minor services in the long run...

And you dont have to machanically minded, i am not, most of this stuff, is common sense...

But the biggest expense when doingself servicing, is your time, and buying decent tools to do the stuff with....have spent a fair bit of money on getting decent tools, the difference is massive, between good and bad tools!

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Alot of the basics for the bike aren't too hard to pick up, its mainly having the tools, patience, and being slow and methodical so you don't break anything (talking from experience here :P)
Alot of the basic stuff such as tyre pressure, keeping your bike clean, checking all fluid levels, topping up fluids, changing the oil and filter, changing brake fluid, cleaning your chain, and checking for signs of wear or damage are easy to pick up from someone experienced.
The chain upkeep, as well as making sure your tyres and brake pads are in good condition would probably be some of the first I'd start with, followed by oil levels/changes and filter.

I've probably forgotten a few important things though :D

The most common thing I see with other riders is their chain in absolute disrepair, or almost bald tyres.
Mike (soon to be me...) lubes the chains on all bikes on a regular basis - come back from a long ride, while still warm - lube it.

Does his on his XJR about once a week. Guys at the Yamaha dealership said that his chain and sprockets are in excellent condition and won't need replacing - even after 30000 kms.
 
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