BOLO for Toyota's

[Ryan T]

I don't know about you but I'm kinda leary these days with Toyota's behind me. Too many of them are accelerating and sticking. Last thing I want is to be riding and some out of control vehicle that can't stop runs me over.

Be On the Look Out

Take care out there.

 

[The Toecutter]

Dude as a master mechanic with 18 years experiance.....I can personaly say Toyota is the best built vehicle on the road...saying that there are alot and I mean alot of stupid people driving them...also I work on Cadillacs for a living because GM builds the biggest P.O.S. 's that have ever been sold to the public...I personaly hope the re sale value takes a huge slump for Toyota so i can buy a used IS 250 for my wife. I LOVE MY 2003 TUNDRA!!! :BLAA: :rockon:

 

[CCHOUSEKY]

People seem to conveniently forget that American car makers have had worse recalls than Toyota's current one. Funny how Congress is hammering Toyota over this but I don't remember the outrage being this high when Ford was churning out Explorers in the early 2000's with substandard tires that killed over 300 people in crashes!

I wonder, if one were to look at who's leading the charge against Toyota in Washington, how many of those lawmakers are in the pockets of US carmakers? And let's remember that the US government pretty much OWNS GM now, so it's no wonder they're jumping on Toyota to try and take sales away from them.

No, I don't work for Toyota here in Kentucky, but I've owned 5 of them and I'd buy another tomorrow and not think twice about it. Toyota and Honda simply make the best, most reliable vehicles on the road. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE that intentionally stays away from Toyota over this recall is an idiot and deserves to get the POS GM/Ford/Chevy that they end up with. I don't want to hear them crying when they're taking their year-old car into the dealer for some random failure when they could've been driving a Toyota effortlessly for years and years and only having to change the oil and tires.

Sorry for the rant, but this is a much-overhyped topic right now and the ONLY reason it's getting so much play is because US car companies make crap cars (and have for years) and need something to help them boost sells. And don't come back with the argument that you've got a F-150 with 150,000 miles and haven't ever had a problem. As the old saying goes, the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in a while.

 

[BH322893]

I'm a loyal Toyota owner too and I think you should be no more wary than you are with any other vehicle on the road. I did laugh when I saw the clip about the old man in the Prius who needed the CHP to help him stop, it's amazing that he's trying to get on a reality tv show and this horrible thing happens to him. cough...hoax..cough :scared:

 

[RJ2112]

I started buying Toyotas in 1983..... bought a '78 Corolla Liftback, and thought it was the most boring car I'd ever owned. Nothing ever broke on it. I ended up totaling it due to a lot of Jim Beam, and a major case of stupidity. No one was hurt, and I am forever thankful for that.

Bought a '86 Cutlass Calais. POS.
Bought a '88 Dodge Dakota. POS. Bad lifter off the floor.
Replaced the Dakota with a Cutlass Supreme in '89. The dash vinyl let go. the carpet fell off the interior. the insturment cluster blacked out. the hood latch broke. had about 2 years without issues, then the EFI went bad. The tires were the most easily punctured POS I have ever had on a car.

When that Supreme left me stranded in Manchester NH, knowing I had to drive to Seattle in November...... I traded it in. Bought a used Camry LE wagon. Not a single problem with that car, through 117 K miles. Wife and son were driving it when they got rear ended by a 'high risk' driver who was late picking up her kid from elementary school.

Considering that 'witch' slid 232 feet before she totalled her Taurus ramming my Camry, I think it gave it's all..... the ins co felt different and rebuilt it. I sold it.

The wife's replacement vehicle was a '01 Tundra Limited. No probs there, either. Sold it to my boss who still drives it daily.

My Echo has 153K miles on it. Still gets high 30's and has had one tail light bulb replaced. (I did put new head light bulbs in, and polished the housings.)

<I personaly hope the re sale value takes a huge slump for Toyota so i can buy a used IS 250 for my wife.> Me, too. It's incredibly stupid to think the US auto makers are going to do the right thing and start building cars that meet the same levels of quality I KNOW Toyota has managed for more than 30 years, in my direct, personal experience.

 

[BH322893]

My Echo has 153K miles on it. Still gets high 30's and has had one tail light bulb replaced. (I did put new head light bulbs in, and polished the housings.)

another echo owner. woot! my 2001 has 165K miles and I need to polish the housing soon, that'll have to wait til I finish replacing the exhaust gasket though

 

[CCHOUSEKY]

Ha, ha...Echo owner here too! Don't you just LOVE that little car???

Mine's a '05 with nearly 90K on the odometer and I've never had one single problem. Yeah, eventually I'll have to polish the headlight housing, but big deal. I've never even had a tail light go out. I'm still getting in the high 30's too (sometimes over 40 MPG if it's all highway driving).

I've had 4 Corollas and the Echo. The worst mechanical failure I've had? The alternator went out on my '88 Corolla after almost 10 years. Not a single failure on any of the others. My parents have a Tacoma, Camry, and Prius. Yep, we're a Toyota family and some silly recall isn't going to change that.

 

[RJ2112]

I happened to have some Plexus 1 and 2 in the house, and some spare time. The plastic was foggy enough I had to use the #2 to get it to clean up...... I am amazed at the difference. Roomy little car. Seat four adults with ease with good head room in the back. Not so much legroom.... but I only ever sit in the driver's seat, LOL.

I don't get as much snow as you do; but I've driven that Echo through stuff deep enough to hear it scraping down the entire length of the under body, and it's still chugging along. Needs shocks and struts..... getting more nervous in wind than it used to be. It's almost to the point of actively annoying.

Change the oil, and drive. That's what I want from a car.

 

[oldfast007]

So, I'll talk to my co-worker and convince him that we should get in his Prius and accelerate hard into a stone wall, suffer some long lasting injuries, wait for the free boat lawyer to settle the case and bingo were what maybe two years out and a couple hundred thousand richer after fees?.... this crap has got to stop!

Does Toyota have problem, yes, are they working on it, yes, better than any American car manufacturer would!


I have been driving my Dad's 2000 Tundra for the past month, that Toyota just put a brand new frame under, with new leaf springs, shocks, brake lines. etc. It took a year but they did what was right! The dealer was a bigger screw job than the manufacturer!

The Oldsmobile Bravada that I used to own needed a complete valve job plus new u joints, and a complete egr wiring harness at 60k, what did they cover, just emissions stuff, everything else was not covered.

Tons of complaints go completely unanswered every year. I also find it suspect that not long after Toyota grabs the larger market share, boom there in front of Congress!! Someone tell me the last time another manufacturer's President was in front of Congress to address SAFETY concerns and not financial ones??

 

[zigzagg321]

Loyal Yoda owner here as well. I have a 96 T100 that has 192k miles...runs like a top, doesnt leak anything, and is still chugging away on the ORIGINAL clutch.

Toyotas are great.

The company is great, they gave me $6800 for a tacoma I had bought for $4000 a month earlier because the frame had a rust hole in it.

I probably will always have a yoda now.

 

[Tailgate]

Remember, if you FZ6 suddenly accelerates out of control, turn the key off or use the super convenient kill switch. You can even shift into neutral. There's no need to dial 911 and have a big national scene. Now, if your accelarator sticks on a steep, twisty cliff-hanging grade, you should have all your business taken care of for survivors.

 

[Ryan T]

I see this thread went way in the wrong direction.

Yeah, there's so many hazards out there other than this. No, I wasn't nor am I against Toyota.

Was just making light of the current "hot item in the news"

Smiles everyone, smiles.

 

[Kriswithak]

Every time someone almost runs me over without looking, runs a red light or does something incredibly stupid its a Toyota lately.
The fact they are a boringly reliable car attracts all the idiots who can't drive, and just look for soemthing they'll never need to do anything to, with good safety features.

If its not a toyota its some kind of 4wd. In which case on top of the above issues, they think only they exist on the road, or have right of way.

Its just a sign of the times that even a reliable car maker has fallen for the 'highest profits for least effort' crap that we are currently seeing, where businesses only bother pushing out as many products as possible with no care for quality or customer satisfaction. They deserve to be absolutely smashed by the authorities for it, but only when the authorities are taking all businesses doing this to task, and start banning foreign imports of absolute junk that outsell local produce because its cheap and people are too stupid to realise it will last about 5% of the more expensive products life.

 

[zigzagg321]

Every time someone almost runs me over without looking, runs a red light or does something incredibly stupid its a Toyota lately.
The fact they are a boringly reliable car attracts all the idiots who can't drive, and just look for soemthing they'll never need to do anything to, with good safety features.

If its not a toyota its some kind of 4wd. In which case on top of the above issues, they think only they exist on the road, or have right of way.

hmm, Im and idiot that cant drive then, and my toyota is "some kind of 4wd" as well.

Thanks buddy. sheesh.

 

[RJ2112]

I'll admit, I see a lot more 4WD vehicles in the ditches than I do anything else when the weather goes south.... Toyota seems about equally represented in that venue. Not very many Subarus. Lots and lots of Fords, Chevys, Jeeps etc.

 

[Red Wazp]

I don't know about you but I'm kinda leary these days with Toyota's behind me. Too many of them are accelerating and sticking. Last thing I want is to be riding and some out of control vehicle that can't stop runs me over.

Be On the Look Out

Take care out there.

Help me out here I'm trying to get my head around your statement.

So what do you do IF a Toyota does come up behind you.
Pull over?
Speed up?
Race him?


Come on, you really are worried about a few cases of over blown media hype? You do realize this is just a government plot to dis Toyota so we would buy more of their cars - you know those POS GM vehicles our government bailed out.

You won't see the out of control vehicle that takes you out until it's too late. Sucks, eh?

 

[dako81]

I think one of the reasons that the US auto manufacturers cannot present the same quality for the same price as many foriegn owned companies is the "legacy" they are operating under from the "good ol' days".

That's the best way I can describe it after having experience working for an American auto parts supplier. If the big three were to adopt the same financial structure that the other companies operate with, all of the employees at those companies, and their manufacturers, would just strike because of their unwillingness to work for what the wage would be. Part of the problem is that if they shifted immediately to that type of monetary allocation, they wouldn't be able to build any cars, instead of just building overpriced cars. The trend has been towards better quaility over the past several years, but that likely can be attributed to the trend towards lean manufacturing (less $$ wasted), and contract negotiations and changes with respect to their associates (UAW), suppliers, and suppliers with their associates (UAW).

What I see is decent design work in a few areas ($$ spent on engineering), such as powertrains, where most of the engineering in those areas tends to come through after the manufacturing process (US vehicles are designed to make it out of the warranty period and they do), however the rest of it is piss poor work which is also further exemplified through the willingness to pay for quality manufacturing.

I guess all of that is a nice way of saying that the big three spend more money on employees doing repetitive jobs than do other companies, and therefore have to sacrifice in other areas. This is also something that cannot change easily because of the structure and culture surrounding the workers in this industry. That's sort of how I've been seeing it lately, after viewing it from the inside for a little while.

 

[Red Wazp]

hmm, Im and idiot that cant drive then, and my toyota is "some kind of 4wd" as well.

Thanks buddy. sheesh.

:rof::rof::rof:

That was a good one.

I own 5 Toyota pickups- look out!

 

[kpaul]

We are all going to die.

 

[Kazza]

We are all going to die.

Come on, mate. Be optimistic!

We are all going to die, ONE DAY.