Crashed this morning

[blkparade]

The idiot is definitely at fault no if's ans or butttttsss. As in the guy is a Butttt head. Glad to hear nothing serious on your part as far as injuries. :thumbup: for wearing your gear. Hopefully your back in action full time very soon.

 

[VEGASRIDER]

If I would have used the horn instead of my brakes, and he stopped, I would have went head-on directly in his drivers side door. There was enough time for me to just \"clip\" the back of his hatchback while I was in the air.

If the horn is loud enough, and I'm not endorsing the stock horn either, and you use it immediately, meaning that as soon as you saw the car turning, maybe it could have been prevented because you would't allow the driver to execute it's intention because he hears the horn and realized he f'd up.

But I will agree, there comes a point when the horn will become useless because the threshold in the point in which the vehicle needs to stop or slowdown has passed, which may have been in your case.

 

[sasper]

I totally hear ya Vegas... wish I could have prevented it but it was a pretty sudden and unavoidable situation

Now to go get my Vicodin presription filled

 

[lonesoldier84]

wow man thats nuts. good to hear ur ok. if u were over the front of ur bike u must have managed to slow it down a bit. good thing u managed not to lock the front or else u could have slid under his car and rly messed up ur right or left side of ur lower body.

just curious. what were u wearing for gear?

 

[lonesoldier84]

p.s. just saw the paint image wow man that guy was an idddddddiot....who U-turns like that so close to an intersection in such an awkward spot with such a huge blind spot to left-turners.....thats retarded beyond words...

 

[sasper]

Yep it was an idiot move. I was wearing my full-face Nolan helmet, some shorty Triumph armored gloves, my Tour Master Response SCR boots, First Gear textile armored jacket and jeans. Nothing too serious, but prevented road rash.

 

[MarineMom]

Glad you are relatively OK.
A friend in FL wasn't so lucky a few months ago, 89 yo woman was in right turn lane and as he got next to her she made a left and hit him, he never saw it coming. She decided she needed to go to Walmart....six lanes and a left turn away!!!! At least he died doing something he loved.

 

[VEGASRIDER]

Now to go get my Vicodin presription filled

Remember to share.:drool:

 

[jsteinb95]

For future reference; Always call a cop to the scene.....I don't know how good that is filing a report after the fact.

 

[tom5796]

For future reference; Always call a cop to the scene.....I don't know how good that is filing a report after the fact.

Always. You never know if the adrenaline is hiding injury, and you always want the report.

 

[dickieD]

glad to hear you are ok.. with that kinda damage .. they may total your bike.. let us know what the insurance company will do..

 

[wrightme43]

glad your ok man. freaking cagers.

 

[jsw4178]

Glad you are okay

 

[Cali rider]

Sorry to read about your incident but relieved to see that you reacted properly and were dressed for the crash. It appears that you were very aware of your environment to be able to get your speed down so quickly. IMO a horn blast is a waste of time in 99% of car vs. bike encounters, I only have enough time to take care of myself through an avoidance maneuver or brake application.

Again, kudos for paying attention to what was happening around you and hitting the brakes. The outcome would have been much worse if you had T-boned the Mazda...

 

[Hollow]

Man everyone has covered everything already. I just wanted to say on my behalf glad you are okay mostly. Hopefully the pain passes fast and the insurance stuff is fair and speedy. Its sad really I wish I could do like a cop at my job and decide what I do and I dont.:thumbup:
Hear is to the police department:spank:
Hear is to the cager:Flip:

 

[VEGASRIDER]

IMO a horn blast is a waste of time in 99% of car vs. bike encounters

I will have to strongly disagree with you on this John, if a horn is used correctly, which is ahead of time, not after the fact or during the incident when it's too late, it can prevent car vs bike encounters significantly. It has saved my ass a number of times, and others on this fourm as well. It's one of the defensive tools that are available for us riders, which works great if used at the correct time. That is why it is critical to have the ability to use it. Most rider's instict is to grab the brakes, which is fine because if a collision is imminent, you need to slow down as much as possible for the impact. However, under certain situations, I think the horn could prevent many of the crashes that I have read on this forum. I'm not saying that this was the case for Steve, but maybe for some others. IMO of course.

 

[Cali rider]

I will have to strongly disagree with you on this John, if a horn is used correctly, which is ahead of time, not after the fact or during the incident when it's too late, it can prevent car vs bike encounters significantly. It has saved my ass a number of times, and others on this fourm as well. It's one of the defensive tools that are available for us riders, which works great if used at the correct time. That is why it is critical to have the ability to use it. Most rider's instict is to grab the brakes, which is fine because if a collision is imminent, you need to slow down as much as possible for the impact. However, under certain situations, I think the horn could prevent many of the crashes that I have read on this forum. I'm not saying that this was the case for Steve, but maybe for some others. IMO of course.

Ken, I don't ride in the type of heavy city traffic that you do in Vegas (slow speeds with pedestrians, vehicles and LOTS of distractions!) so I will take your opinion about the value of using a horn as accurate. I do use the horn at times but never as a defensive measure. If the guy in front of me needs a reminder that the light is "green", honk honk. If I want to acknowledge a driver for pulling over to let me by on a narrow road, honk honk.

If someone is about to pull out of a gas station into my path, I will always do something other than honk my horn. I'll hit the brakes, change my line or both. To me there are no other choices to make, I will use either or both of these actions to save my life. I don't give a damn about informing someone of my existence, I will take care of myself through my own actions and not count on somebody else who wasn't paying attention in the first place.

Again, I respect your opinion as you ride in a different set of circumstances than I do. Let's both stay alive to ride together again!!

PS- You never replied to the other thread about the red coating on your bike...

 

[sasper]

Thanks for the well wishes guys. Makes me feel better about the whole situation Or maybe that's the Viciodin and muscle relaxers.... :Flash:

 

[FZ1inNH]

I'd tend to agree with John on this one Ken. Sometimes blowing the horn can distract the driver and cause them to panic and hit the brakes. Certain situations would warrant no use of the horn if there's a slight chance you can escape if the cager stays the course. Other times, it can save you and I also agree with that aspect. This goes back to your original thought process, that being when you should and shouldn't use the horn and the thought process involved with both.

The only trouble is, we often have milli-seconds to decipher that thought and decide.

 

[VEGASRIDER]

Ken, I don't ride in the type of heavy city traffic that you do in Vegas (slow speeds with pedestrians, vehicles and LOTS of distractions!) so I will take your opinion about the value of using a horn as accurate. I do use the horn at times but never as a defensive measure.



Again, I respect your opinion as you ride in a different set of circumstances than I do. Let's both stay alive to ride together again!!

PS- You never replied to the other thread about the red coating on your bike...

Well I guess that's where we differ. That is exactly what a horn is intended for, a defensive measure. Someday, I know you will find a time when you will use it as a defensive tool, like from a bad lane change or something else. I know cause you ride enough and live in Southern Cal where it ain't no cup of tea to ride in either.

As far as the other thread, forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder, for the most part, I checked underneath the headers and other areas of the bike as well, thinking it was from the spray wash, but not the case. I may take off the front sprocket cover and see what I find this weekend. It's due for a major wash. Hasn't been cleaned since you last saw it believe it or not.