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madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

My FS6 sliders had two long bolts and they dont seem to want to send me the correct one

. I am wondering if the factory allen head bolts are grade eight (metric class 10.9) and if it is a big deal to replace them (for the slider) with a grade 5 (class 8.8)? All I can find are class 8.8 and not 10.9. The problem is that they are a fine thread and no one locally carries them. What do I do? TIA

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

if it helps I know the differences in the grades/classes. I just wanted to see if anyone knows what the stock bolts are and if anyone has experience using the "lesser" bolts with/without repercussions........

reiobard · Apr 7, 2008

madmanmaigret said:
if it helps I know the differences in the grades/classes. I just wanted to see if anyone knows what the stock bolts are and if anyone has experience using the "lesser" bolts with/without repercussions........

I don't know what the stock bolts are, but i know that the "Lesser" bolts will bend and break easier, but I also have no idea what kind of strength is actually required. You could install the sliders with the lesser bolts and continue your search for the correct ones and replace them down the road. That way you at least have the sliders for lower impact usage and would only (in my unprofessional opinion) have adverse effects during high impact instances.

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

reiobard said:
I don't know what the stock bolts are, but i know that the "Lesser" bolts will bend and break easier, but I also have no idea what kind of strength is actually required. You could install the sliders with the lesser bolts and continue your search for the correct ones and replace them down the road. That way you at least have the sliders for lower impact usage and would only (in my unprofessional opinion) have adverse effects during high impact instances.

Thanks Reio! that is what im doing for the time being. I just didn't know what stock was.

reiobard · Apr 7, 2008

madmanmaigret said:
Thanks Reio! that is what im doing for the time being. I just didn't know what stock was.

I don't know enough about bolts to help with that. dealer can't tell you? any markings on the bolts letters? numbers?

reiobard · Apr 7, 2008

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

reiobard said:
I don't know enough about bolts to help with that. dealer can't tell you? any markings on the bolts letters? numbers?

the stock bolts are allen head.... so no marking whatsoever. I might just have to call the dealer but I have learned that it is usually hard to ask about bolts because people think a bolt is a bolt, is a bolt

but the one that came with the sliders are def. class 10.9 (sae grade 8 equivalent)

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

reiobard said:
These guys claim to have every screw you would ever need. If you know the thread length and hardness you might be able to order from them.

Washers | Bolts | Hex Nuts | Machine Screws | Security Screws | Fasteners | Metric Fasteners

thanks Reio..... now do you know anyone who wants to buy the other 99? (must buy in bulk as is the case with most places I find on the internet)

reiobard · Apr 7, 2008

madmanmaigret said:
thanks Reio..... now do you know anyone who wants to buy the other 99? (must buy in bulk as is the case with most places I find on the internet)

i didn't see that requirement, that stinks... I'll see what else i can find, Nothing local can order one in for you?

reiobard · Apr 7, 2008

I wrote an e-mail for you:

I have the FSY08 Frame sliders for my FZ6 and took them off to do some work to the bike. At some point in that time I managed to loose the bolts. Is there a way to order just the bolts for these frame sliders? My local hardware store is not able to get anything in the same strength and I want the bike to be protected the best way possible.

Thank you.

Robert Christian

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Hello Christian,

Sorry to hear that you've lost the bolts. We do sell replacements. Below is the link. Just be sure to specify which kit you need them for. Have a great week!

https://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=234

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Best Regards,

Jason Herod
[email protected]
Thank-you for supporting Motovation products!
Ph: 512-697-9672 Fax: 512-828-6378

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They also say this about their fasteners:

Fasteners
We use mostly 12.9 grade (176,000 psi tensile strength) hardened steel socket head cap screws for our slider to frame attachments.

killernoodle · Apr 7, 2008

A grade 5 would definitely hold the slider on there and keep the motor bolted to the frame, but when you actually need to use the slider it will just snap right off.

I suggest replacing it with one of the same grade., mcmaster should carry that bolt.

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

reiobard said:
I wrote an e-mail for you:

I have the FSY08 Frame sliders for my FZ6 and took them off to do some work to the bike. At some point in that time I managed to loose the bolts. Is there a way to order just the bolts for these frame sliders? My local hardware store is not able to get anything in the same strength and I want the bike to be protected the best way possible.

Thank you.

Robert Christian

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Hello Christian,

Sorry to hear that you've lost the bolts. We do sell replacements. Below is the link. Just be sure to specify which kit you need them for. Have a great week!

https://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=234

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Best Regards,

Jason Herod
[email protected]
Thank-you for supporting Motovation products!
Ph: 512-697-9672 Fax: 512-828-6378

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

They also say this about their fasteners:

Fasteners
We use mostly 12.9 grade (176,000 psi tensile strength) hardened steel socket head cap screws for our slider to frame attachments.

you da man, rob! Just one question... are motovation sliders both the same length? because the fs6 sliders are two separate lengths so I still wouldn't know if it is the right bolt without telling them that I need a [email protected] class 10.9 or higher.... you still helped alot I might buy both bolts from there because they are allen head and they will match the rest of the bolts on the bike.

:iconbeer: next round's on me!

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

killernoodle said:
A grade 5 would definitely hold the slider on there and keep the motor bolted to the frame, but when you actually need to use the slider it will just snap right off.

I suggest replacing it with one of the same grade., mcmaster should carry that bolt.

all I saw on mcmaster was 1.5 pitch not 1.25 and you have to get ten at a time......still good prices anyway.

madmanmaigret · Apr 7, 2008

also reio did you just contact webmaster or who did you e-mail? [email protected]?

edit: nevermind I found the contact button.....DOH!

reiobard · Apr 7, 2008

madmanmaigret said:
you da man, rob! Just one question... are motovation sliders both the same length? because the fs6 sliders are two separate lengths so I still wouldn't know if it is the right bolt without telling them that I need a [email protected] class 10.9 or higher.... you still helped alot I might buy both bolts from there because they are allen head and they will match the rest of the bolts on the bike.

:iconbeer: next round's on me!

all the frame sliders out there are hollow aren't they? so they all mount from the closest point on to the engine (does that make sense to anyone other than me?

madmanmaigret · Apr 9, 2008

reiobard said:
all the frame sliders out there are hollow aren't they? so they all mount from the closest point on to the engine (does that make sense to anyone other than me?

I think it makes sense to me, but the FS6 sliders have one longer than the other....long story short I contacted motovation and they said just tell them what diameter/length/thread pitch, etc and they would get them out to me.
Thanks again Reio! :thumbup:

zacknolden · Apr 9, 2008

madmanmaigret said:
thanks Reio..... now do you know anyone who wants to buy the other 99? (must buy in bulk as is the case with most places I find on the internet)

We'll see about that dude. Bulk stuffs ahmm.. I'll think it over

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reiobard · Apr 9, 2008

madmanmaigret said:
I think it makes sense to me, but the FS6 sliders have one longer than the other....long story short I contacted motovation and they said just tell them what diameter/length/thread pitch, etc and they would get them out to me.
Thanks again Reio! :thumbup:

Glad they are going to help you out. :thumbup:

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