Sad situation, sad week

[Botch]

Last week a local guy was riding up one of the main Ogden roads on his Harley, his ten-year old son riding with him, and his wife on another bike right behind. A young gal traveling the same direction tossed her cigarette butt out the window, and for whatever reason it really pissed off the guy. He pulled up on her left and started yelling at her, back & forth; he took a tumble and the bike crashed into the rear of her car. He was taken away in critical condition (no helmet) and the kid taken to the hospital and later released (had a helmet).
The wife claims the gal swerved into him, knocking him down; the gal, several witnesses, and the police (according to the marks on her car) claim he fell and slid into her; no charges have been filed yet.
The story was on the front page again this morning, the guy died from his injuries. So now we have a traumatized kid without a dad, a traumatized widow, a traumatized gal, pain all around and one guy dead.

All over a cigarette butt.

 

[jsw4178]

Very Tragic. Road Rage is a terrible thing

 

[wrightme43]

That sucks man.

I had a simular situation riding to Indiana.
Some jackass in a VW convertable passenger seat with the top down and the windows up, kept throwing peanuts or something at me. College kids. I just put in 4th cruised up on the side, made a obvious WTF man Why? gesture and blasted off.

I think Dad may of been crazy to do that crap with his son on the bike with him. Why would any one take any chances with thier child on pillion? Its just not sane. Then again no helmet but the kid had one so he knew the value of a helmet. Its tragic but totally avoidable. Like you said the ones that survived have to live with it for the rest of thier livess. Just selfish selfcentered egotistical bullcrap.

 

[Tailgate]

Well, I wish I knew more about what exactly happened. Throwing out a cigarette is no small matter if this was in a forested area. Wildfires certainly can be devastating. And, if a lit cigarette butt flew into a biker's face this is more than an annoyance. Now, if this guy twisted off so badly and caused his own demise at no fault of the careless (because she tossed out the lit cigarette) cage driver...then this guy sounds like he was certainly going overboard with his anger. What do you suppose he did: fall back and try to return behind her too early (and clip her rear quarter panel)?

 

[cv_rider]

Road rage and riding just don't mix. If you're prone to that, you should stay off the bike.

 

[mastakilla]

Road rage and riding just don't mix. If you're prone to that, you should stay off the bike.

That's bullsh*t. What they should do, is light a cigarette, and then put it out in the eye of that b*tch who threw her butt out the window.

 

[lonesoldier84]

That's bullsh*t. What they should do, is light a cigarette, and then put it out in the eye of that b*tch who threw her butt out the window.

that statement has no foundation in reality.

 

[christod1]

That's bullsh*t. What they should do, is light a cigarette, and then put it out in the eye of that b*tch who threw her butt out the window.

Chill out mate...

 

[Sqrly]

That is a very sad situation. All involved will be traumatized for a long time. The driver showed little regard for the biker. I think that sometimes the cagers do not understand how vulnerable we are to the decisions that they make. We are not wrapped in sheet metal and have an impact rating. How many times has someone in a car cleaned their windshields only to splatter you in the face with windshield washer fluid and bugs? There needs to be a real sense of awareness. Not just on theirs, but ours as well. We have to be able to react. And in a calm manner if possible. This guy did not. He had precious cargo onboard and put his child in a situiation that could have been even more devastating. I'm so sorry that the father passed away. Now his son and his wife will have to live their lives with only his memory. That is so very sad. Things like this make me thankful that I am here with my family. They are why I exist.

 

[Tailgate]

Upon reflection, that woman who threw out the cigarette has got to be exccedingly negligent given that there were motorcyclists right behind her. I suppose when she's not doing that she spits out in the wind wiping out whoever's behind. Once I was on an rural interstate behind a motorist who tossed out a complete bag of fast food trash. It all burst out flying all over the place. This was done despite me and several other motorists right behind him. A complete disregard by the driver; he doesn't even wait until there's nobody else around. Yeah, road rage is bad but so are doing actions that incite road rage. What this woman driver did certainly contributed to inciting road rage. I suppose that she's not going to be charged with throwing out a burning object because a sworn officer didn't observe it?

 

[CanadianFZ6]

That's bullsh*t. What they should do, is light a cigarette, and then put it out in the eye of that b*tch who threw her butt out the window.

Wow... glad you don't live near me.... Good luck with that attitude...

 

[VEGASRIDER]

Whenever I'm stoped at a red light and see someone disgard their cigarette out the window, sometimes I want to get off my bike and go pick up the cigarette and throw it back inside their vehicle. Litterbugs.

Definately not a good example of judgement by the rider. No helmet, with family in tow.

 

[sportrider]

thats a bad situation all the way around.

 

[Cloned]

Whenever I'm stoped at a red light and see someone disgard their cigarette out the window, sometimes I want to get off my bike and go pick up the cigarette and throw it back inside their vehicle. Litterbugs.

Definately not a good example of judgement by the rider. No helmet, with family in tow.

I did something similar the other day. I was stopped at a red light and the cager next to me threw out a cigarette on the ground. I pulled up a little and stepped on it to put it out, then looked at them and shook my head.

 

[paul1149]

Before I "express my displeasure" or otherwise take chances on the road I make sure that doing so will not affect anyone's safety. For instance, once I was going through an intersection. I saw the driver of an oncoming car who planned on turning left didn't see me. Rather than stopping I kept on rolling forward slowly, because I knew I could stop at any time and I saw that his intended turning path would miss me. At the last minute he saw me and jammed on the brakes. The whole thing unfolded as I thought it would. I think he learned a lesson in awareness that day, and I felt safe the whole time. It's a very dangerous thing to express uncontrolled emotion on the road. Stay cool.