Newbie in need of help

[C.partain]

Hey guys I'm in a tough spot. I have a 2007 FZ6 that has decided to stump me. About three weeks ago I started her up an she started to idle really low and puttered out. Kept trying to start it until the battery gave out. Even tried bump starting it. Slapped in a new battery and tried again bu still no luck. Fuel pump is whining up whenever I turn the key but all I get is starter noise. No fire. Tried a lil starting fluid in the breather and got a single thump out of it. Any ideas? Thanks a lot. And sorry if i posted in the wrong section.

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

Welcome to the forum!!!! (Best year FZ BTW!!



Sounds like the charging system isn't working... It'll run until the battery gets below a certain voltage (even the new battery).

Charge your battery and get it load tested. It should read close to 12.8 or so, static...

Also, put a volt meter across the terminals and see if its charging at idle and up. 5,000 RPM's should put out 14 volts plus. At idle, about 13 volts...

IF you jump start the bike off a car, make sure THE CAR IS NOT RUNNING, you'll fry your charging system...


Please post your results....

 

[Motogiro]

I know you killed the battery but now it seems like you've picked up some stale or contaminated fuel or fuel is not bieng delivered.

Can you give a little history on when you last fueled it or if it's been sitting for a long period?

Oh yeah! :welcome:to out great family!

 

[C.partain]

Bike has always been ran on premium octane. Had filled up about two days prior to the incident. Thanks for all the help guys!!

 

[C.partain]

Oh and I had been riding on a daily basis when this issue occured

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

Got a volt meter and small (2 amp preferred) battery charger?

 

[C.partain]

Yes I sure do.

 

[VEGASRIDER]

How many miles on the plugs?

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

duplicate post..

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

I'm just checking the basic's first, re charging...

As Cliff mentioned re fuel, the OP posted he rode on a regular basis BUT, JUST filled up with fuel... Its very possible he got a load of water in that fill up. Crap/water in the system would cause NO FIRE.

If the gas station you last filled up at was different than your regular would also lead me to the above. Also, if a tanker is filling the underground tanks WHEN YOUR FILLING, it'll kick up crap from the bottom of the gas station tank and pump it into YOUR TANK...

Unfortuatly, the best way to eliminate this possibility is to pull the tank and dump the fuel (preferably into a clean container to check for water/crap), then blow out with an air compressor if ones available (debris does build up in the tank over time...)

http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-technical/16913-how-do-you-get-fuel-pump-out.html

 

[ChevyFazer]

With a new battery in it I don't think it would be in the charging system although I could be wrong, the way he described it sputtering out I'd say it's a fuel or spark issue.

 

[darius]

Per the owner's manual, the FZ6 engine likes 'regular' gas. It doesn't have high enough compression to warrant so called 'premium' fuel. You may find it starts easier, better mpg and runs smoother with regular. They have the same additives, just different octane.

How many miles on the engine? How many on the plugs?

I'd change the plugs and drain the tank, put in regular gas.

 

[mave2911]

Per the owner's manual, the FZ6 engine likes 'regular' gas.

Actually incorrect. As per the manual, the MINIMUM REQUIRED is 87PON (91RON).

My bike NEVER gets less than 98RON.

The additive package, including detergents etc, keep it all running clean and smooth.

Cheers,
Rick

 

[ChevyFazer]

lets not turn this into a octane thread, the problem is 200% surely not octane related

 

[niko_fz6]

check your fuses, they are on the right hand side of the bike, next to the seat..

 

[darius]

Yamaha owner's manual 3-11:
'Your Yamaha engine has been designed to use regular unleaded gasoline with a pump octane number [(R+M)/2] of 86 or higher, or a research octane number of 91 or higher. If knocking (or pinging) occurs, use a gasoline of a different brand or premium unleaded fuel.'

Regular is easier to ignite. If the engine is older and has less compression, it may help more.

Anyway, the fuel grade may not be root cause, but if there's a possibility of bad fuel in the tank and a more volatile grade may make it easier to start and run.

A volt meter will tell you what the battery is up to and the headlight wires are easy to pull to take some load off temporarily.

 

[mave2911]

Yamaha owner's manual 3-11:
'Your Yamaha engine has been designed to use regular unleaded gasoline with a pump octane number [(R+M)/2] of 86 or higher, or a research octane number of 91 or higher.

Isn't that what I said?

Do you have a different definition of 'minimum'? (as in 'higher is ok, but no lower'....)

Cheers,
Rick


EDITED FOR THE SENSITIVE OF DISPOSITION.....

 

[darius]

Isn't that what I said?

Do you Americans have a different definition of 'minimum'? (as in 'higher is ok, but no lower'....)

Cheers,
Rick

You Americans? You sound prejudiced I'm not American. I'd say more but I don't want to derail.

OP: Good luck with your bike and let us know how you get on.

 

[TownsendsFJR1300]

I'm AMERICAN and damn proud of it. We are all bike riders!

Now, back to the thread please....

 

[04fizzer]

Back on track, water certainly sounds like a possibility.

I'd stick a hose in the filler, down to the bottom of the tank, and siphon out some gas into a clear glass jar. Let it sit for a little while and see if water separates out. If it does, keep siphoning until the water is gone. Then throw in some dry gas or sea foam, and see what happens.