High-Sided. :( (Learn from my mistake)

[sxty8goats]

On a sportbike, you shouldn't be able to lock the front wheel during braking.

It was pretty easy to lock the stock front end on my buddies SV650s. The first time I rode it I grabbed the breaks @ 30 and the damn thing locked up good. Dry pavement doing "How fast can I stop this?" tests.

 

[Jez]

I thought it was just me - I've had a few minor rear wheel skids now from using the back brake in combination with the front. Not much pressure either - it seems to have only two settings: on or off.

I was taught to do 80% of the braking pressure with the front, 20% back, and back only at low speeds. But on the FZ6 I've found myself avoiding the back brake during normal braking since those skids. It's very twitchy.

 

[DiasDePlaya]

This is a hard braking, and better, over wet road.

As you can see in the pic the rear wheel is close to take off. Really do you think that in this condition the rear brake can do something?

Once a year I teach people to hard brake, and using just the front brake my students and I can brake from 60 km/h to 0 in just 6 meters. The last time we had 400 students. Always 2 or 3 students finish doing stoppies under perfect control.

 

[VEGASRIDER]

This is a hard braking, and better, over wet road.

As you can see in the pic the rear wheel is close to take off. Really do you think that in this condition the rear brake can do something?

Once a year I teach people to hard brake, and using just the front brake my students and I can brake from 60 km/h to 0 in just 6 meters. The last time we had 400 students. Always 2 or 3 students finish doing stoppies under perfect control.

That's a great picture. The rear brake will only become effective when the front end starts to decompress. As you apply the front brakes, all your weight and energy is transferred to the front tire as it gathers friction against the pavement. At this point, the rear tire can only account a small percentage of the breaking power since most of energy is transferred towards the front. But.....it's this small percentage that helps reduce your stopping distance rather than just using one brake.

Remember, you're teaching people who already know how to brake. You're not teaching students on how to ride for the first time. So once again, we teach the new riders to get use to using both brakes as it allows the shortest distance, and keeps things simple.

 

[DiasDePlaya]

I teach the same to everyone, new or experienced. I don't understand why teach first the wrong way and then re-teach people in the right way.

The shorter distance to stop any bike is when the rear wheel fly few millimeters over the road. And in this case the rear brake is just more weight that add inertia to the bike.