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Ban on 100CC and lower Bikes
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bmccrary
Touring Mod
I believe Dad will have a thing or two to say about this...
-bryan
-bryan
Scorphonic
No Man is an Ireland.
Just looking at your location there...there's a Glastonbury in the USA???
Do you have yearly music festivals!! :rockon:
O and why would anyone ban 100cc or less bikes?
Just looking at your location there...there's a Glastonbury in the USA???
Do you have yearly music festivals!! :rockon:
O and why would anyone ban 100cc or less bikes?
Yea there is a glastonbury in the US.. Its in Connecticut and possibly elsewere in the states.
No we don't have a yearly music festival, but we have the irish fesitval in the fall.. thats about it.. (kinda boring town)
The ban is related to kids toys (dont ask me how) but its a ban on hazards matrials used in the production and mechanics of these bikes. I agree with the story that i doubt some little kid is going to put a lead proket in his mouth, but stranger things have happened in the us. :Flash:
keira
Mrs. Reiobard
there's already an exception int he works that states that products that have parts that are deemed inaccessible (like engine parts) containing 600ppm of lead or more are still able to be sold.
there are actually a few exceptions, but i can't seem to find the website...
there are actually a few exceptions, but i can't seem to find the website...
bmccrary
Touring Mod
Its actually, from what I heard, ages 12 and under. So any part on the motorcycle that contains a paint that does not meet those standards as mentioned above, is a problem. So no longer can dealers sell the bikes or parts for those motorcycles...
The CRFF50, CRFF70, KX 60 and 65, TTR 50 and 90, some of the small quads, only to name a few.
-bryan
The CRFF50, CRFF70, KX 60 and 65, TTR 50 and 90, some of the small quads, only to name a few.
-bryan
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wrightme43
Oh its worse than that.
Its in the levers, the frames, the plastic seats, its all over the place. Lead helps to make steel machine better, makes levers better, and is really a important piece of the puzzle in making things.
Again has anyone else thought of hanging everyone in the congress and senate? I think its a viable option. At least its a good place to start.
Its in the levers, the frames, the plastic seats, its all over the place. Lead helps to make steel machine better, makes levers better, and is really a important piece of the puzzle in making things.
Again has anyone else thought of hanging everyone in the congress and senate? I think its a viable option. At least its a good place to start.
SovietRobot
Scourge Of Humanity
Lead also used to make gasoline work, and cheap.
bmccrary
Touring Mod
Dang, there goes the IC engine....wait I thought gas was unleaded...
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*thud thud thud* (The sound of me hitting my head against the wall)
Yes. Here we go again. In another effort to protect us from ourselves, our federal government has determined that way to many kids are putting the handlebars, frames, engine cases, and well most everything else on a kids ATV, dirt bike, articles of clothing, etc, etc, etc in their mouths and run a risk of being poisoned by lead.
Remember now, these are some of the same fine folks that worked on the stimulus package and are going to save us all... OK, I'm exaggerating a little. But not much.
Bryan is right (I've been flooding his email with all sorts of stuff), this relates to items marketed to kids 12 and younger, engine size has nothing to do with it. And yes, there are exemptions and re-writes in the works, but how long will that take? The maddening part about all this is that there really is no rhyme or reason immediately obvious to this piece of $h!t legislation.
For example, we were forced to pull all of the units manufactured by our O.E.'s and we can't sell any O.E. parts to fit them. But, since the way most parts numbering systems work combined with the cross over of certain parts on various machines, there is a huge number of parts we can't get for machines that aren't on the list. An example used by Cycle News is a throttle tube for a Kawasaki KLR650. The same tube is used on a KX65 and since that particular part was used on the 65 first, it's primary ID tracks it back to the 65, so I can't get a grown man the same part for his 650!
AND! AND! I can't sell a stock Yamaha piston for a TTR50, but I can sell a Wiesco one for the same unit. Right now anyway...
The factories have extended us 60 days free flooring on the new units we have in stock, after that who knows. Perhaps this will be fixed, the CPSC made public a letter in which they effectively are telling dealers to cool their jets, they are working on a solution. But these are the same idiots that came up with this BS in the first place, so excuse me if I'm a little weary of them. Perhaps the bikes will be outlawed entirely. Anyone that is paying the slightest bit attention can see that is as probable outcome as not with all the other 'roadblocks' that are thrown out in the name of 'protecting the children'.
So, if any of you have any kids that are under 12 and ride, I beg you to send them to school with out a pencil and note that tells the teacher there is more lead in that writing instrument than in any 10 ATV's or dirt bikes so it too should be considered a hazard.
This kinda stuff just makes my blood boil...
Bruce
Yes. Here we go again. In another effort to protect us from ourselves, our federal government has determined that way to many kids are putting the handlebars, frames, engine cases, and well most everything else on a kids ATV, dirt bike, articles of clothing, etc, etc, etc in their mouths and run a risk of being poisoned by lead.
Remember now, these are some of the same fine folks that worked on the stimulus package and are going to save us all... OK, I'm exaggerating a little. But not much.
Bryan is right (I've been flooding his email with all sorts of stuff), this relates to items marketed to kids 12 and younger, engine size has nothing to do with it. And yes, there are exemptions and re-writes in the works, but how long will that take? The maddening part about all this is that there really is no rhyme or reason immediately obvious to this piece of $h!t legislation.
For example, we were forced to pull all of the units manufactured by our O.E.'s and we can't sell any O.E. parts to fit them. But, since the way most parts numbering systems work combined with the cross over of certain parts on various machines, there is a huge number of parts we can't get for machines that aren't on the list. An example used by Cycle News is a throttle tube for a Kawasaki KLR650. The same tube is used on a KX65 and since that particular part was used on the 65 first, it's primary ID tracks it back to the 65, so I can't get a grown man the same part for his 650!
AND! AND! I can't sell a stock Yamaha piston for a TTR50, but I can sell a Wiesco one for the same unit. Right now anyway...
The factories have extended us 60 days free flooring on the new units we have in stock, after that who knows. Perhaps this will be fixed, the CPSC made public a letter in which they effectively are telling dealers to cool their jets, they are working on a solution. But these are the same idiots that came up with this BS in the first place, so excuse me if I'm a little weary of them. Perhaps the bikes will be outlawed entirely. Anyone that is paying the slightest bit attention can see that is as probable outcome as not with all the other 'roadblocks' that are thrown out in the name of 'protecting the children'.
So, if any of you have any kids that are under 12 and ride, I beg you to send them to school with out a pencil and note that tells the teacher there is more lead in that writing instrument than in any 10 ATV's or dirt bikes so it too should be considered a hazard.
This kinda stuff just makes my blood boil...
Bruce
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Gas is unleaded now.soviet robot is refering to gasoline before the EPA stepped in and ruined the party back in the early 80's leaded fuel was availble at allmost any corner store but slowly was completly fazed out.I remember about 10 years ago buying lead addative in a bottle for a 1968 firebird my best freind owned the valves in the old engines weren't made of the same high grade steel of today's modern unleaded fuel engines and the lead helped to prevent them from burning and pitting,and in turn also got into all the internal part's of the engine causing a short life span; 100,000 miles on a leaded fuel engine and it was toast,in most cases.
SovietRobot
Scourge Of Humanity
Yes thank you that is what I was talking about.
The reason lead was added was because it increased the octane level pretty easily, which meant cheaper grade gas could be used to the same effect.
But apparently lead in the atmosphere is a bad thing.
