• Welcome to the Yamaha FZ6 Forums. Member registration disables ads and allows you to post and share. Register Here.

I couldn't fill my truck up last night...

This is probably a really daft question but why do you all need V8 5 Litre engines when a 2.0 litre will do the same job. Is it because fuel was never really an issue? Or is it just a cultural thing? The reality is if you want to save money you got to consider a smaller engine.
Nelly

The smaller engine doesn't always win the fuel efficiency award Neil. An example of this would be the earlier Chevrolet S-10 series trucks. You could get a 2.5L 4, a 2.8L 6 or the 4.3L 6. Around town the 4 cylinder would do best but out on the highway at cruising speeds the 4.3L would surpass it in terms of MPG. Standard shifts used to do much better than automatics but the new automatics have become so efficient they have pretty much achieved parity. In terms of bikes, the FZ6 I ride will average 46/48mpg with 600cc's but the 1200cc Sporty will break 50 no problem and it weighs 175 pounds more.. The 1670cc Roadstar on the other hand has difficulty making it over 40mpg.

The new Hybrid cars do ok but they still haven't achieved the efficiency of the 85-87 Chevy Sprint which could blow off 55mpg without even trying. Building vehicles designed to get fuel mileage up there isn't a problem but getting them to do so is a whole different story.
 
My 4x4 Dakota 5.2l 5-spd was killing me on gas, so I sold it to my Dad and bought a '97 accord 2 door 2.2l 5-speed w/113k miles in sharp condition. The first tank I got 29mpg with 20% highway 80% city at around a max of 40mph, I was impressed. I just filled up the second time and got 31mpg with 40% highway. I am very happy. I would have spent almost $100 going as far as this car has taken me on $39.

I also stop and think, and get sad when I think of the sticker that is still on the back window of my truck that has Kalvin pissing on rice burners, right above my Flowmaster sticker. lol
I hear ya, i've got a 2000 Durango 4x4. Even with the 4.7, which was spose to be the more efficent replacement for the 5.2, it still sucks. 12MPG around town for the most part and 16MPG highway. I'd get rid of it if i could but it's really not an option. I've put too much money into it at this point to justify dumping it plug going to school at Mighican Tech, I need a truck in the winter or I probably wouldn't make it to class.........
 
Ahhh, my vehicle ('84 Ford 350 Econoline 6.9 diesel) takes about----get this---40 frickin' gallons. Fill-up will run about $170 USD (@4.20 per US gallon). Cough, cough, hack, hack. Needless to say, I am HAPPY that my '07 FZ6 can get around 50 MPH. Just returned from a r/t to Reno, NV from Sacramento; I had 235 miles on my trip meter before I pit stopped with 35 miles on "F-Trip." I figure that I, maybe, could have squeezed another 10 miles or so on the F-Trip but I...was running low on guts.
 
Ahhh, my vehicle ('84 Ford 350 Econoline 6.9 diesel) takes about----get this---40 frickin' gallons. Fill-up will run about $170 USD (@4.20 per US gallon). Cough, cough, hack, hack. Needless to say, I am HAPPY that my '07 FZ6 can get around 50 MPH. Just returned from a r/t to Reno, NV from Sacramento; I had 235 miles on my trip meter before I pit stopped with 35 miles on "F-Trip." I figure that I, maybe, could have squeezed another 10 miles or so on the F-Trip but I...was running low on guts.


36.1 on the F-Trip and mine spluttered to an embarrasing halt. Think you did the right thing filling up when you did.
 
I don't know how many of you were around back in 1974 when we had the oil embargo and had odd and even days for gas that was under $1 a gallon but I hope they don't go back to that. If the price goes up then so be it; just keep giving us the gas.
 
This is probably a really daft question but why do you all need V8 5 Litre engines when a 2.0 litre will do the same job. Is it because fuel was never really an issue? Or is it just a cultural thing? The reality is if you want to save money you got to consider a smaller engine. This question is not just aimed at you, I use you as a generic.
Nelly


Neil, I cut and sell firewood on the side, I needed a vehicle that could pull a 10,000lbs. trailer, that way I could do all of my deliveries for the weekend in one trip.

I also pull heavy trailers for when I go camping out in the desert:thumbup:

Having a larger vehicle is also safer for me in case of an accident.

I like having the ability to see over the vehicles ahead of me.

A 2 liter engne will not do the same job of that of an 8 liter:thumbup:
 
The only reason why I drive a frickin' huge 6.9 liter diesel 1 ton van is because my late father left it to me and it came with a 7,000 lb boat/trailer. It wasn't too long ago when diesel was CHEAPER than gasoline. Now, it's much more expensive. I can't (or don't want to?) understand how diesel got more expensive than gasoline. At any rate, now with fuel costs so much more I am exceedingly glad that I have my FZ6. But, I kinda agree with the poster asking why some opt to drive around in near big rigs with V-8 engines. We're supposed to be at "war" and yet many drive around in 10-15 mpg vehicles. This has to naturally help drive up fuel prices since it dramatically increases demand. There's always the government rhetoric about decreasing fuel dependency but that's all that it ever is: rhetoric. If you ask me, the US ought to take a page out of the Europe/rest of world book and improve on the mass transit infrastructure. At any rate, if this price spike in fuel cost continues dealers are going to have a tough time trying to move full-size SUV's.
 
The only reason why I drive a frickin' huge 6.9 liter diesel 1 ton van is because my late father left it to me and it came with a 7,000 lb boat/trailer. It wasn't too long ago when diesel was CHEAPER than gasoline. Now, it's much more expensive. I can't (or don't want to?) understand how diesel got more expensive than gasoline. At any rate, now with fuel costs so much more I am exceedingly glad that I have my FZ6. But, I kinda agree with the poster asking why some opt to drive around in near big rigs with V-8 engines. We're supposed to be at "war" and yet many drive around in 10-15 mpg vehicles. This has to naturally help drive up fuel prices since it dramatically increases demand. There's always the government rhetoric about decreasing fuel dependency but that's all that it ever is: rhetoric. If you ask me, the US ought to take a page out of the Europe/rest of world book and improve on the mass transit infrastructure. At any rate, if this price spike in fuel cost continues dealers are going to have a tough time trying to move full-size SUV's.

They are already having a hard time moving the big SUV while the hybrid car sales are up 17 percent. The price of that 42 gallon barrel of crude is driven by demand and by the amount that is being pumped. China is now using so much the market can sell it to them at a price point they don't care about which means the rest of us will take a hit. It would however be much cheaper if we built some modern refineries and tapped into that 30 billion barrel deposit in Alaska.
 
I had 235 miles on my trip meter before I pit stopped with 35 miles on "F-Trip." I figure that I, maybe, could have squeezed another 10 miles or so on the F-Trip but I...was running low on guts.


Let me be sure I have this right. You went from Sacto to Reno and stopped for gas with 35 miles on the trip OD at 235? Figuring you put in roughly 4.8 gallons that ain't bad while crossing the mountain as you probably hit around 50mpg right?
 
Let me be sure I have this right. You went from Sacto to Reno and stopped for gas with 35 miles on the trip OD at 235? Figuring you put in roughly 4.8 gallons that ain't bad while crossing the mountain as you probably hit around 50mpg right?
Yup. I was on my return from Reno when I stopped with 235 miles on the trip meter (F-Trip showed 35 miles). And, HavBlue, wow---Interstate 80 above 5,000 feet elevation or so has got to be one of America's most snow-chain-torn-up interstates anywhere! Geez. The westbound lane 2 seems to be the worse. There's actually a huge and wide groove---almost a "gutter"---running down the lane. And, along with that, there are a zillion high and low patches or asphalt on the roadway. I had to really hold on to the bar. It's kinda nerve whacking. The torn up interstate roadway goes on for 10-15 miles or so. Number 1 lane is markedly less torn up. I guess it's all the big rigs going over Donner Pass that take thier toll on the roadway. Anyway, yeah, I got really good mileage. 10-15 miles or so I was taking advantage of a big rig's draft/vacumn in front of me (but not so close as to be wreckless on my part). So, in answer to an earlier inquiry of yours about this highway, yeah, it's pretty torn up above 6,000 feet or so.
 
Yup. I was on my return from Reno when I stopped with 235 miles on the trip meter (F-Trip showed 35 miles). And, HavBlue, wow---Interstate 80 above 5,000 feet elevation or so has got to be one of America's most snow-chain-torn-up interstates anywhere! Geez. The westbound lane 2 seems to be the worse. There's actually a huge and wide groove---almost a "gutter"---running down the lane. And, along with that, there are a zillion high and low patches or asphalt on the roadway. I had to really hold on to the bar. It's kinda nerve whacking. The torn up interstate roadway goes on for 10-15 miles or so. Number 1 lane is markedly less torn up. I guess it's all the big rigs going over Donner Pass that take thier toll on the roadway. Anyway, yeah, I got really good mileage. 10-15 miles or so I was taking advantage of a big rig's draft/vacumn in front of me (but not so close as to be wreckless on my part). So, in answer to an earlier inquiry of yours about this highway, yeah, it's pretty torn up above 6,000 feet or so.

Man, I thought they repaved that thing? The run either way over the top and around Truckee was like being attached to one of them paint shakers at Home Depot. Donner is a bit over 7,000ft and it's beautiful up there too. I'll bet they're getting an arm and two legs for gas up there now.... Where did you stop for gas on the return trip?
 
Man, I thought they repaved that thing? The run either way over the top and around Truckee was like being attached to one of them paint shakers at Home Depot. Donner is a bit over 7,000ft and it's beautiful up there too. I'll bet they're getting an arm and two legs for gas up there now.... Where did you stop for gas on the return trip?

I stopped at the Chevron in Auburn at the Foresthill highway (one of US's highest bridges yards away) exit. Yeah, back to the highway----I think I need some dental work after riding on that stretch. Speaking of shaking, Reno had a good sized earthquake...about 1 hour after I left.
 
our work trucks hold 200 gallons..... of diesel!

I kinda saw this all coming almost seven years ago when I bought my first car. I could have had my dad's old Dodge Demon w/a 440 4barrel (makes manly grunting noises) but instead i bought a '96 honda civic hatchback...35mpg is no problem in the city. but i still ride the fz more :D





p.s. I underlined first because most people would have wrecked or trashed their first car by now but I am the only one i know who hasn't. Gotta love those Honda's...........cars
 
our work trucks hold 200 gallons..... of diesel!

I kinda saw this all coming almost seven years ago when I bought my first car. I could have had my dad's old Dodge Demon w/a 440 4barrel (makes manly grunting noises) but instead i bought a '96 honda civic hatchback...35mpg is no problem in the city. but i still ride the fz more :D





p.s. I underlined first because most people would have wrecked or trashed their first car by now but I am the only one i know who hasn't. Gotta love those Honda's...........cars

Smart man Doc. I need to do what you have done, buy a reasonable car and keep it for a long time. I have a problem of falling in love with new or new to me cars all the time.

Fiancee has had her Mazda for 10 years and it has 145,000 miles and runs great. She has saved a fortune by keeping that car.
 
Fuel prices are killing me. My truck has a 30 gal diesel tank and my suburban a 35 gal gasoline tank. Neither have seen a full tank for quite a while. But I only put 2k on the truck per year and 1k on the sub per month... The FZ is the only thing keeping my bank account positive.....
 
I put gas in my Jeep this morning. 20 bucks gave me a 1/4 tank :mad: ....it used to cost $45 to FILL IT UP!!!!
 
Back
Top