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HavBlue and the IRS

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HavBlue.... what do you think of the Fair Tax Plan by Neil Boortz (sp)

it would put you into retirement....

This is nothing new and the idea surrounding it has actually been around for a while. A fair tax system would place the burden of payment at the point of sale for all goods and services while removing the burden of a traditional income tax. In some respects the roughly 30% charged at the point of sale would seem to help however, some would argue a consumption tax "fair tax" would breed fraud and evasion. It is also thought the fair tax would allow businesses to move more capitol into production with a positive effect on future investment. However, it is also argued the upper class would benefit the most while placing a larger burden on the middle class. Additionally, the fair tax would do little to help the poverty level people unless they were once again supported by some form of credit offset. If you are interested in following this Google House Resolution 25, which was sponsored by John Linder (R-GA). The bill is currently dead.

Keep in mind, this is only federal tax and there would no longer be any deductions. It does not take into account the taxes associated with any state program either. This meaning the ultimate outcome of the tax you pay will be far greater than the proposed 30%. Additionally, not only would the IRS be necessary in an effort to collect from those found to be evading tax, what will we do with those in an industry known as tax preparers, attorney's, certified public accountants and so on? There's a multi billion dollar industry right there. At present, the US Tax code has roughly 5,000 pages and this is only the general code as there are an additional roughly 3,000 pages in the IRM.
 
"fair tax" would breed fraud and evasion
you act like this is not rampant now???

what will we do with those in an industry known as tax preparers, attorney's, certified public accountants and so on? There's a multi billion dollar industry right there.
no I kknow you must be smarter than this statement implies.

Having a system that is cumbersome .... and the fact that it creates jobs is NOT a reason to keep the deficent system.

IMHO:)
 
Having a system that is cumbersome .... and the fact that it creates jobs is NOT a reason to keep the deficent system.

IMHO:)

I totally agree with that, we have had to change many practices in the NHS that we all thought were benificial.
 
you act like this is not rampant now???

no I kknow you must be smarter than this statement implies.

Having a system that is cumbersome .... and the fact that it creates jobs is NOT a reason to keep the deficient system.

IMHO:)


What do you consider rampant? I have the figure and I think you will be very surprised.

This tax system which you may consider cumbersome is only that way because folks can't take the time to figure out what they are doing. Rather, they file a return based on guess work or limited knowledge without actually taking the time to understand what they are doing. This is especially true with estimated tax and complex returns. They will consistently complain about mistakes that were their own doing as opposed paying a few hundred dollars to get quality help from some firm like the one Inertia works for. A few hundred dollars that could conceivably earn them more than they ever could on their own.. It all boils down to folks wanting the lazy way out. Get the maximum with the least effort possible and lets hope it's free too right. I get it, it's the old hey, my friend knows how to do taxes and 3 months after they have filed they get a control letter from exam because that friend transposed a number in the SSN or they were told not to worry about filing because they will get a refund anyway. Then, when they find out the statute is 3 years and they lose every penny of it or a substitute for return is filed in the meantime and they owe thousands because the system only sees positive income and doesn't know them so they freak. It's not the system's fault, it's the users.

As far as a flat tax or consumption tax goes, not in my lifetime.
 
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