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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Since your saying you were having problems with your battery and/or charging system I would def get that checked out before you start taking engine covers off.

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by LCR View Post
    Since your saying you were having problems with your battery and/or charging system I would def get that checked out before you start taking engine covers off.

    Totally agree! I thought he had cranked it with a good battery but if he's using a bad battery.
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by krid80 View Post
    Subscribed to hear the result. I'm putting my money on a stator issue.
    Yes he needs to have a working battery and charging system.
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by LCR View Post
    Since your saying you were having problems with your battery and/or charging system I would def get that checked out before you start taking engine covers off.
    I had a charging system/battery issue last May, after changing the battery the problem was fixed. But once again, after 4-5 months with a new battery, I am having charging/battery issue again. This is why I am thinking that there is something wrong with my charging system. Someone had mentioned that it was the voltage regulator. I jumped started my bike with a car with it's motor running and somebody said that that was very bad thing to do.

    If it's a failing charging system, this could lead to my failed crankshaft posisiton sensor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Motogiro View Post
    Kenny,

    This procedure does say oil so it looks like you have to dump the oil. The plug is #1 and the crankshaft position sensor is #5 The rotor is #6.

    Hope your oil change is near due.

    See attached.
    I'm pissed off on hearing that, I just swapped out my oil and filter last week. Not even 200 miles on the clock with the new change. I put the good oil in too, the Castrol 12.99 per quart.

    Hopefully, it's just a loose wire or disconnecting the battery will reset everything.

    Otherwise, I think this this is going to the repair shop, this repair sounds like it's getting too technical. Mechanically, I suck. Period.

    To clairify things, are you saying not to take off the Cranking Sensor Cover until the oil is drained?
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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by VEGASRIDER View Post
    I had a charging system/battery issue last May, after changing the battery the problem was fixed. But once again, after 4-5 months with a new battery, I am having charging/battery issue again. This is why I am thinking that there is something wrong with my charging system. Someone had mentioned that it was the voltage regulator. I jumped started my bike with a car with it's motor running and somebody said that that was very bad thing to do.

    If it's a failing charging system, this could lead to my failed crankshaft posisiton sensor.



    I'm pissed off on hearing that, I just swapped out my oil and filter last week. Not even 200 miles on the clock with the new change. I put the good oil in too, the Castrol 12.99 per quart.

    Hopefully, it's just a loose wire or disconnecting the battery will reset everything.

    Otherwise, I think this this is going to the repair shop, this repair sounds like it's getting too technical. Mechanically, I suck. Period.

    To clairify things, are you saying not to take off the Cranking Sensor Cover until the oil is drained?
    Kenny,

    Talk to LCR about oil. I think he's got a solution for you.

    Also as others have mentioned you should have a working charged system before you consider that error code.

    For some reason I thought you had cranking operational bike...

    Charge the battery and get it load tested. I know you have a tender. If the battery is good you could have a bad stator or Voltage regulator/rectifier.

    The reason you can damage your regulator/rectifier when you jump the bike from a car is if the car is running, the regulator on the bike sees it's threshold voltage provided from the car charging system and because bike uses a shunt type regulator it passes additional current through a solid state device that is coupled to a heat sink and dissipates the additional current as heat. Since a cars charging system provides much more current than the bike's regulator/rectifier can dissipate, the bike's regulator can be damaged.
    You can jump start from a car but the car must not have the engine running.
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Dude, I love this forum and its members. Excellent explanation Cliff, I was wondering about this when I read it further up in this thread.

    Kenny, best of luck with your error code. Could it be that your stator/alternator/whatever generates juice for our bikes is going out? 6 months is an awful short lifespan for any vehicle battery.

    And Kenny don't worry about jinxing yourself - I've heard you talk about not having mechanical problems several times (in person) before, and your bike has been running fine since then, up until this point.


    Quote Originally Posted by Motogiro View Post
    The reason you can damage your regulator/rectifier when you jump the bike from a car is if the car is running, the regulator on the bike sees it's threshold voltage provided from the car charging system and because bike uses a shunt type regulator it passes additional current through a solid state device that is coupled to a heat sink and dissipates the additional current as heat. Since a cars charging system provides much more current than the bike's regulator/rectifier can dissipate, the bike's regulator can be damaged.
    You can jump start from a car but the car must not have the engine running.

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by Motogiro View Post
    Yes he needs to have a working battery and charging system.
    So my gameplan is to change out the voltage regulator and stator first, or are they the same? What part number would that be on Ron Meyers? I want to make sure I order the correct.

    Too bad there isn't a bike being parted out.

    I might try disconnecting the battery and see if I can get the error code to dissapear. But I am not going to go near the Crankshaft Sensor unitl the charging system is swapped out.

    Looks like I'll be a cruiser dude for a while. Everybody is telling me that I don't look the part (riding in full gear). I want to look like a pro, not a poser.
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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by VEGASRIDER View Post
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    Too bad there isn't a bike being parted out.

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    If you want to cross reference the part number against R6 and R1s to see if they are the same I will check the racing forums. someone is usually always parting out a bike on one of them.

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    Re: Error Code 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by VEGASRIDER View Post
    Looks like I'll be a cruiser dude for a while. Everybody is telling me that I don't look the part (riding in full gear). I want to look like a pro, not a poser.
    Now THAT is comedy right there!

 

 
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