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    Question Riding with a Passenger

    Hi All,
    So I've had my FZ6 for close to 3 years now. One thing I have still been unable to do is shift smoothly with a passenger on back. Especially going from 1st-2nd I just expect a wack in the back of the head. I know that the clutch grab point on these bikes is in a terrible spot, but when I am alone my ride is smooth. Throw someone on the back and its like a bucking horse. Any suggestions on improving this or is it just the nature of the bike?
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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    With the bike 125-150 pounds heavier, it decelerates faster than when you are solo. Don't shift while the rpms are raising. For example, if you are going to shift at 4,000 rpm, hold 4k for a second before shifting. This will reduce the rate of deceleration.
    Lifelong student of motorcycling. Current bikes: Custom Naked '05 FZ6, LS650 Café Racer, DRZ400 Street Tracker

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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    I find a blip of throttle between gears helps too.

    Smoother / slower on the clutch too...
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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    My clutch is definitely made using binary code. Its either on or off. Every other bike I have owned has had a large grab period, and I could smoothly go through the gears. On the FZ its like a race bike. But like I said, by myself its smooth, with a passenger its terrible. I will definitely try to hold an RPM for a second before changing gears to see if that helps.
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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    Quote Originally Posted by gtosteve65 View Post
    My clutch is definitely made using binary code. Its either on or off. Every other bike I have owned has had a large grab period, and I could smoothly go through the gears. On the FZ its like a race bike. But like I said, by myself its smooth, with a passenger its terrible. I will definitely try to hold an RPM for a second before changing gears to see if that helps.
    Might want to check the cable for any potential failures pending. I noticed some "dragging or slight binding" while lubing the cable.

    What I later found, at about 23,000 miles, ALWAYS lubed (excessively actually).

    You can also put the FZ 07 clutch lower, ENGINE lever on: https://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-...ave-lever.html

    I did, definitely a longer engagement zone, slightly easier to pull. I ended up putting the "stocker" back on, didn't care for the longer zone, shifts faster with the OEM lever.. Note, the FZ-07 lower lever does NOT have the punch mark for alignment like the stock lower lever.

    But a new cable and lever will transform the bike. (at least lube the cable if NOT frayed and no excess drag / fraying)



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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    I find nothing unusual about the FZ6 clutch. I'd check the condition of your clutch. What oil do you use? Most automotive grade oils cause clutch problems.
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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    Hi, this helped mine:
    Rising the idle rpms a bit
    Adjusting TPS to 18
    Cutting the snorkle of the airbox
    Adjusting Chainslack

    No guarantee, only my experience! Now I'm going to ride with my gf
    Greetings and good luck!

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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    Plus one, ^^^ on loose chain slack. Keep it close to 2", cleaned and lubed.

    A loose chain and loose throttle cable makes for a sloppy shift.
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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    My clutch cable is new as of June. I use Yamalube 10-40 oil. I am always a fan of a tighter chain, so I already keep it on the tighter side of the spec. I should check the TPS, maybe that will help. It just seems like when I get off the gas the bike decelerates super fast, almost like the brakes are on and then once I click into the next gear and come off the clutch its nothing... and then bam its fully engaged.

    I've checked both front and rear brakes to see if they are hanging up. While I do plan on changing the seals this winter, they still allow me to rotate the tire about 2.5 - 4 times before it comes to a stop.

    Its just so odd because on my Seca I can try and screw up a gear change and yet it still feels smooth. The FZ feels like its go a clutch from a racer in it.

    Bike is about to hit 20K if that means anything.
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    Re: Riding with a Passenger

    Thanks for the above..

    How many RPM's are you generally shifting at?
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