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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Wow... Glad you found the issue for certain....

    Yep, anything critical I have to work on, I start "fresh" the next available day. Keeps the boo boo's to a minimum.

    While the engine is out, should that engine mount thread NOT clean up with enough material / threads, I'd opt for a Heli-Coil with red Loctite.
    I use them somewhat often on customers machines, steel threads are WAY better than aluminum and very easy to do (especially with the engine out).

    The Loctite is NOT called for however once it's installed (and the inner threads cleaned (BEFORE SETTING UP) its now very, very solid.



    B&S engine float bowls I modify (super thin) to drain all the fuel for storage:

    Machining the bowl:



    Insert threaded with Loctite:


    Installed /done with drain bolt/washer:

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Thanks for the tip!

    Hopefully it won't be necessary but at this point it seems that anything is possible, so... better to be prepared.
    I've now ordered a set of 10pcs M10*1.25 helicoil style threads.
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Today I cleaned and installed the water pump, bent the clutch boss locking tab and installed the rest of the clutch parts.

    Anyone got any tips for installing the clutch cover? Didn't have time to fiddle with it too much today, but it seemed that it only caught the tip of the pull rod
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Quote Originally Posted by bigborer View Post
    Today I cleaned and installed the water pump, bent the clutch boss locking tab and installed the rest of the clutch parts.

    Anyone got any tips for installing the clutch cover? Didn't have time to fiddle with it too much today, but it seemed that it only caught the tip of the pull rod
    From page 5-52, S2 manual, self explanatory really

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    End of year update;

    Good news- this week the weather has wormed up a bit over freezing, warm enough to be able to work outside using knitted work gloves. And I received the new head gasket.

    Bad news- The rest (valves and taps) had to go through the national post service, which is now displaying a big sign saying "November to January intl parcels are expected to be delayed due to seasonal reasons", so yeah... I still don't have them.

    I did try my best to get the engine inside the frame before the new year, but... it just wasn't possible. We'll see how it goes next year...

    Last but not least, big thanks to everyone who contributed here!

    Best of luck to everyone and have a happy new year!
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    I've finally received the valves and cleaned, installed and lightly lapped 2 of them.

    One of them however has some pitting, as shown in the picture.

    Is this something normal/ safe to use? I've seen engines with much more than 7500 miles (as the seller claimed the donor bike had) and they didn't have any pitting.
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Kinda odd.. Never seen that before.

    I think I'd install the valves (just for that cylinder) with springs, etc.

    Then flip the head upside down and fill with a liquid. We're looking to see if it leaks at all.

    If it holds fluid over night, you should be ok...


    *What kind of condition were they when you received them, rusted, carboned up, etc?
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    The intake valves were clean, and the exhaust valve had some carbon deposits - way more than it should have been for 7500 miles, but still a bit better than how the rest of my valves were before cleaning. Got them polished using a half worn scotchbrite pad and some elbow grease.

    I'm 90% sure it would seal but who knows what caused that dent- it might also make that spot a starting point for a future fracture, especially as I tend to rev it as it should.

    But finally the seller agreed to reship another valve. Hope I'll get it soon...
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Quote Originally Posted by bigborer View Post
    The intake valves were clean, and the exhaust valve had some carbon deposits - way more than it should have been for 7500 miles, but still a bit better than how the rest of my valves were before cleaning. Got them polished using a half worn scotchbrite pad and some elbow grease.

    I'm 90% sure it would seal but who knows what caused that dent- it might also make that spot a starting point for a future fracture, especially as I tend to rev it as it should.

    But finally the seller agreed to reship another valve. Hope I'll get it soon...
    That, ^^^, is by far, the best thing you can do..
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    If it's an exhaust valve I'd be afraid it burn and fail. They rely on full contact with the seat to cool and although that pit (caused from sitting most likely) is small, it could lead to failure if on the exhaust side and lead to a burned valve.

    Glad you have another on the way.
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