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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    The internet has taught me...
    - always video record...could be highly entertaining later
    - avoid riding the bike into van. variables such as speed, momentum, BAC, throttle control, balance, etc may be working against you
    - have a buddy help you
    - the ramp often will be the death of you and or bike. Especially if not attached to van. make sure your ramp is sturdy, more then 8in wide, and if possible attach the end to the van
    - load with an empty tank to reduce center of gravity

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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    I prefer doing the trailer as I can easily get two bikes on it (shown is an FJR and Goldwing).

    The suspension is from Northern, the rest is homemade/designed with 3/16" box steel (extremely strong).

    For the loading ramp is a channel bent and then the center DRILLED so the tires won't slip going up or down.
    The rack stores under the frame, slides in over rollers, then LOCKS into place.

    The actual racks, besdies being bent and welded at the end(one piece), also have a heavy chain welded on the
    rack so the front wheel can be locked to the trailer easily.

    The front cross member has 5/8" holes every two inches for tie downs.

    And as noted above, the loading ramp has two 1/2" hooks (welded to each end that slip into the rack-it's not going anywhere)

    One ramp can be removed and the other centered if only pulling one bike as well....



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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    So I need some advice...

    I have been loading my 82 seca in and out of my '16 F150 all the time by myself and had no issues. I actually built "bumper" ramps for it (like in bumper bowling) which means I dont have to watch the tires because there is no way it can fall off the ramp.

    2 months ago I tried with the 08 FZ6. It was a failure. Halfway up the ramp humpty dumpty and I fell to the right (I was on the left side of the bike so it fell away from me with me holding on till the last second trying to recover). Looking back there were 2 reasons why I struggled which I need some collective help figuring out what to do.

    First, my handlebar height. My Seca is a cafe racer and the bars are slammed., the FZ6 has stock bars which when going up the ramp are almost in my chest (Im 5'9). Made it hard to control and I think I lost a lot of stability.
    Secondly my clutch is like a racing clutch... its either on or off, not much feathering. Maybe its worn out???? I got 22k on it. The seca clutch is featherable through almost the whole pull.

    Any suggestions on what I can do to not fall again. I am doing another trip in a month and would prefer to not need a trailer.
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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    Your description of the clutch is normal...

    You can replace the LOWER clutch lever(literally above the clutch cover) with an FZ-07 lever. It spreads out the engagement range and softens the pull a bit..

    Your BIKE ramp sounds fine.

    I think I would make another ramp (2 x 8 plank or aluminum ramp) for YOU to walk up on adjacent to the bike. Some sort of attachment to the tailgate (hole with a bolt sticking thru the ramp into the gate)..

    I would still have another person simply to at least hand tie down straps, etc as your setting up. It's way to easy to dump the bike at that time..
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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    Quote Originally Posted by TownsendsFJR1300 View Post
    Your description of the clutch is normal...
    I agree. That's the standard feel of the FZ6 clutch....

    Quote Originally Posted by TownsendsFJR1300 View Post
    You can replace the LOWER clutch lever(literally above the clutch cover) with an FZ-07 lever. It spreads out the engagement range and softens the pull a bit..
    Now that I didn't know about! I've been out of the FZ6 scene for a while, and I remember somebody that used to customize the stock lower lever via welding. Great to hear there's a stock lever we can buy. I will have to look into this! Do you have the link to a thread that will tell me what part to buy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TownsendsFJR1300 View Post
    Your BIKE ramp sounds fine.

    I think I would make another ramp (2 x 8 plank or aluminum ramp) for YOU to walk up on adjacent to the bike. Some sort of attachment to the tailgate (hole with a bolt sticking thru the ramp into the gate)..

    I would still have another person simply to at least hand tie down straps, etc as your setting up. It's way to easy to dump the bike at that time..
    I have a triple wide, fold out ramp, like somebody else in this thread posted a picture of. I had a picture too, but it doesn't seem to appear in my post now. I put plywood in the left and right sections of the ramp, leaving rungs in the center only, and putting grip tape on the rungs, and on the plywood. (I learned my lesson after trying to load when it was raining....) And always attach the top of the ramp to the truck with chains or cables!

    That said, I'm somewhat older now, and probably wouldn't ride up into and out of the back of my truck by myself any more, unless I really had to. I always looked for a hill to back up to, in order to reduce the rise of the ramp, and that always made it feel a lot safer.

    Trailers are the way to go, but I don't have one. When I got my dad's 1977 Gold Wing two years ago, I rented a u-haul to tow it the 300 miles, as I wasn't going to try to ride that thing into the back of my truck!
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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    I am definitely getting that lever off an FZ07! I think just to have more clutch control will do me wonders. I have always liked the clutch on my Seca more than the FZ6.

    I do have another ramp that I walk up next to. Both ramps are 2X8s, just one of them having 2X4 bumpers attached on both sides. The bike ramp I put a eye bolt on which then gets ratchet strapped to my hitch. It works amazing for the Seca... even did a ninja 300 and had no issues. But the Fz6 is just a challenge for me. Also it doesn't help being 5'9 and only 145lbs.
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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    Here's the part # and price from Partzilla from 3-25-18 when I bought and put it on mine:

    1WS-16340-00-00 - PUSH LEVER ASSY $13.48 Now a little more: https://www.partzilla.com/search?q=1WS-16340-00-00+

    And yes, it's basically the same as the "modded kit" but factory. There is no modding to the static mount.



    I put it on and didn't like it. Too much room for engagement, harder to shift fast, etc.

    I'll keep it under "dust" should I have an issue "clutching" as I get older..


    Now on my own home built trailer (certainly not as high as a PU bed), I would stand along the left side the bike, gently slip the clutch while using the front brake. I could easily motor it up but would NEVER try riding it up. You do have to be proficient with the clutch / ft brake.. Too much to go wrong.

    Current trailer (with updates)


    FJR and Goldwing (on previous trailer I made) :

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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    Also, if there's a culvert next to the roadway(not too deep), get the back wheels of the PU in there.

    Then with you ramp mounted, your NOT going nearly "uphill" as if on flat ground.

    I've done this moving heavy generators, etc, by myself, WAY EASIER and safer
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    Re: Loading a bike into a tuck or trailer

    I am thinking of building a little hill in my backyard, as that would work well to reduce the angle. Maybe once I get used to doing it a few times it will be as easy as the Seca. But I just dont want to fall again as that was not a cheap repair.
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