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    Vrrroooooom! 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems Motogiro's Avatar
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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    That unit is a potted sealed unit. I'm pretty sure the diodes are gone. For the price and high percentage failure during a theft it's worth a new one..
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by bpchura View Post
    "It isn't faith that makes good science, Mr. Klaatu, it's curiosity."
    "It isn't faith that makes good science Mr. Klaatu, it's curiosity. Sit down, please. There are several thousand questions I'd like to ask you."

    One of the greatest sci fi movies ever! I believe we are getting close.......
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    That really sucks. I'd be fired up to track that fool down. My 07 FZ6 was stolen TWICE before I got it - so far no more takers. You look at the bike and you can see the attraction.
    Hope you get good advice on the relay damage etc. I use a heavy chain and armored padlock, and try to park next to more expensive and newer bikes in town.

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    On page 8-73 of the 2007 FZ6 Service manual is the forward reverse continuity test to determine if one of the diodes have been compromised. There are a total of 9 diodes in this relay module, 7 of which comprise the logic flow for safety functions.

    Reconfirm all of the fuses are good, make sure the kill switch is on. If you have no pump prime when you turn the key on. Your highest probability is the relay assembly I've mentioned previously in this thread. Of course without actually testing the unit for it's continuity specs. there is always that possibility something else or more is preventing the function. One obvious tell tale is loss of the neutral safety light. This NSL voltage passes through the diodes in the starting interrupt cut-off relay assembly. As well, if the bike were in neutral or the clutch switch is activated the bike might logically start with the clutch pulled in if the neutral safety switch was not working.

    Also when ever that ignition harness is cut, as well as other electrical components, be sure that you remove the negative lead on the battery before reconnecting your compromised wiring or component.
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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by bpchura View Post
    Did forget to mention that I accessed the diagnostic mode and got codes 19 and 30.
    19 The ecu is not seeing starter activation the the starter button is active..... The starting circuit cut off relay is not activating the starter relay.

    30 The lean angle (tip over) switch is not mounted correctly. This may have been a leftover code. Check the lean angle switch is mounted and plugged in.
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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Motogiro View Post
    On page 8-73 of the 2007 FZ6 Service manual is the forward reverse continuity test to determine if one of the diodes have been compromised. There are a total of 9 diodes in this relay module, 7 of which comprise the logic flow for safety functions.

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    This is good to know. I already have a new (used) module on order but I can check this weekend if I get some time to see if its really the culprit. But it sounds like you've seen this before and based on what I understand the module does, it seems to make sense.
    @RPF its funny, I had my DR650 parked right next to it under a cover. When I came out that morning, the FZ was gone and the cover was off the DR but it was totally left alone. I suppose they saw the 2 bikes, and took the prettier and faster looking one!
    I just installed a security camera watching over the bikes and my truck so I dare them to come back!

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    Any news on this?

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    @Motogiro just got the module today. Plugged it in and....no change. Neutral light still not there and no crank. Not sure what this means... any advice?

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    Have you checked all fuses? The light green wire going into the starting circuit cut off relay should show positive voltage with the key on.
    Pull each fuse and test with your DVM.
    Is your kill switch in the on position?
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: 2007 Stolen, Electrical Problems

    I also re read your 1st post on this and noticed you replaced the fuse on top of the battery which should be the main fuse with a 15 amp fuse. I believe you are referencing the main fuse which should be a 30 amp fuse.
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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