Why will it only start in neutral ??!!

JONAC · Jul 24, 2007

I stalled my new bike today for the first time since collecting it last week ...

I could see oncoming traffic so quicky pulled in the clutch and hit the start button ... to the sound of nothing !!!! As soon as I put it into neutral it fired up ok ... Is this the norm with FZ6s ??

I learnt on a Honda CBF500 and could start it in any gear as long as the clutch was in.. I was under the impression that all bikes were the same.

I think if this is the norm then it is extremely dangerous ... a rapid start is often needed and trying to quickly knock it into neutral only adds to the panic..

Is there anyway I can over-ride this (in my eyes) stupid design ???

OneTrack · Jul 24, 2007

You should have got a red one...they don't stall.

stroker · Jul 24, 2007

Make sure the clutch switch is plugged in on your left handlebar.

JONAC · Jul 24, 2007

OneTrack said:
You should have got a red one...they don't stall.

Blue ones probably don't normally !! with a proper rider on it that is :banghead:

:Im With Stupid: ----> me learning how not to stall

JONAC · Jul 24, 2007

stroker said:
Make sure the clutch switch is plugged in on your left handlebar.

I take it that this is not normal then ?

wrightme43 · Jul 24, 2007

If the kickstand is down or the switch thinks it is down no starty in gear. Check that as well. Mine will start in gear, clutch in, kickstand up.

Botch · Jul 24, 2007

stroker said:
Make sure the clutch switch is plugged in on your left handlebar.

Yup, something's amiss on your bike, I can start mine in 1st just by pulling in the clutch.

JONAC · Jul 24, 2007

Back to the dealer then

300 miles on the clock .... hope its a quick fix ... I'll check the clutch wire is plugged in and maybe check the kickstand..

Thanks fellas

Nelly · Jul 24, 2007

OneTrack said:
You should have got a red one...they don't stall.

That maybe so. But if they did it would be in a much more un-refined way than the black and silver one.

Nelly · Jul 24, 2007

JONAC said:
I stalled my new bike today for the first time since collecting it last week ...

I could see oncoming traffic so quicky pulled in the clutch and hit the start button ... to the sound of nothing !!!! As soon as I put it into neutral it fired up ok ... Is this the norm with FZ6s ??

I learnt on a Honda CBF500 and could start it in any gear as long as the clutch was in.. I was under the impression that all bikes were the same.

I think if this is the norm then it is extremely dangerous ... a rapid start is often needed and trying to quickly knock it into neutral only adds to the panic..

Is there anyway I can over-ride this (in my eyes) stupid design ???

Did it stall when you put it in gear again? Only 300 miles, I would carry out the checks suggested and if your not happy run it buy the dealer. After all it’s a fair investment. The really important thing though, is that these babies are bullet proof. You rarely hear of anything gong badly wrong. Although the red one is the (allegedly) the fast one. Cheers

VEGASRIDER · Jul 24, 2007

I was going to mention the kickstand but that was already mentioned. Maybe after and only after a stall, there is some type of computer that need to reset so it will only start back up in neutral. Have you tried starting in gear from your inititial start up? I will try to pop the clutch and stall my bike for the first time and see if it will start up in gear

VEGASRIDER

wrightme43 · Jul 24, 2007

No I have stalled and restarted in gear. Clutch in, kickstand up, it will start no matter what.

gmickey2001 · Jul 24, 2007

Since I found my clutch switch unplugged from the dealer, and another member noted the same experience, I am willing to bet his clutch switch in unplugged!

JONAC · Jul 24, 2007

gmickey2001 said:
Since I found my clutch switch unplugged from the dealer, and another member noted the same experience, I am willing to bet his clutch switch in unplugged!

Might sound like a silly question but is the clutch switch located near the clutch ?

I'm not with my bike at the mo ... its in a friends garage ... we can't all afford garages in the UK !! especially when bloody bikes are so expensive

I'm gonna pop round in the morning to investigate ... couple of days off work you see !! By the way... If you want to see me embarrassed giving a TV interview !! check this link (I'm the winchman not the casualty !!) ...

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gmickey2001 · Jul 24, 2007

Yes, it is near the clutch lever.

Here is a post from an earlier thread with a picture.

http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-technical/270-clutch-switch.html#post592

OneTrack · Jul 24, 2007

I just added a post on that thread regarding Yamaha's PDI form.

JONAC · Jul 25, 2007

gmickey2001 said:
Yes, it is near the clutch lever.

Here is a post from an earlier thread with a picture.

http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-technical/270-clutch-switch.html#post592

Thanks Mickey ... will check this as soon as I can get round to my bike (still in a mates garage)

Will def report this to the dealer and maybe also to Yamaha, Like another poster mentioned this is Very Very dangerous ... especially for inexperienced riders like myself !!

JONAC · Jul 25, 2007

Problem Resolved !!!

Yes it was the clutch switch that wasn't connected ... might be worth mentioning in your new member forum to pre warn on delivery of a new bike...

Anyhow its sorted now thanks to you fellas :rockon:

:Flash:

JONAC · Jul 30, 2007

pictures of clutch cable

Thought I'd add these pics just incase anyone else has the same problem in the future :thumbup:

delboy · Sep 19, 2007

I had exactly the same problem with mine when i got it, switch not connected.
They should sack the guy at the factory that is in charge of putting the connectors in.

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