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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    How did you get home in the end?

    The spark plug tool you need is in the Yamaha FZ6 tool kit which comes with the bike from the factory, held in the under seat storage. You may find one of these kits on ebay.

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    I managed to find a friend of a friend to come with a trailer for 60% of what I was originally quoted. Still expensive but at least he offered good service and earned what he needed to fund taking his GF the seaside LOL.

    Didn't get the factory tool kit, will check the local classifieds for it.

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Good news- looks like I managed to find (and reproduce a few times for confirmation) the issue - it was a loose ignition coil connector combined with an empty battery.

    Bad news- it now makes a grinding noise, similar to a skateboard, coming from the 1st cylinder. Only rode it round the street for 4 minutes, the power is ok but it makes that noise- idle, driving, still makes it. The pitch changes with the rpm.

    Any opinions? Had the engine broken for riding 60-70kms in 2 cylinders?

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Good job isolating the original fault. It would be helpful to post a short video

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    You'd also want to pull those plugs ASAP and examine since they've been firing unevenly, take a pic. Replace.

    You might be able to borrow a FZ6 spark plug tool from another owner or find another short hinged type elsewhere.
    Last edited by darius; 07-09-2017 at 09:40 AM.

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    I'll try to post it tomorrow, as my GF will probably kill me if I don't take her out today (after spending another full WE working on the bike/car) LOL.

    Makes me a bit sad, I was hoping that after all that work I'd finally be able to ride it again . As soon as I get a spark plug tool I'll check it out with an endoscopic camera, before taking the engine apart.

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Quote Originally Posted by bigborer View Post
    Good news- looks like I managed to find (and reproduce a few times for confirmation) the issue - it was a loose ignition coil connector combined with an empty battery.

    Bad news- it now makes a grinding noise, similar to a skateboard, coming from the 1st cylinder. Only rode it round the street for 4 minutes, the power is ok but it makes that noise- idle, driving, still makes it. The pitch changes with the rpm.

    Any opinions? Had the engine broken for riding 60-70kms in 2 cylinders?
    Great news on getting it running!

    That noise may be the cam chain tensioner. (CCT) It's a spring loaded tensioner and some people replace it with an adjustable tensioner. be very careful when replacing this. Although it's very accessible you can easily jump a tooth or more and have a problem with out of time valve train..
    If you can't fix it by hitting it with a hammer, it's electrical!

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Quote Originally Posted by Motogiro View Post
    Great news on getting it running!

    That noise may be the cam chain tensioner. (CCT) It's a spring loaded tensioner and some people replace it with an adjustable tensioner. be very careful when replacing this. Although it's very accessible you can easily jump a tooth or more and have a problem with out of time valve train..
    I'll look into the CCT as well but shouldn't it have given some signs before failing? Could it be possible that while going on 2 cylinders, the cams did more work forcing the tensioner?

    GF swears the noise is like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDVmZVne13U

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Please check out this video I made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQg1...ature=youtu.be

    Engine was cold.

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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Do at least a compression test on the engine, a leak down test EVEN better.

    It doesn't sound like the CCT to me (which is on the star board side, chain under the smaller cover & valve cover).

    You said the engine seems like it still has FULL power?

    It is possible that running on two cylinders, with NO spark to ignite the fuel being injected into those cylinders tended to wash
    away the oil for the rings.

    Check the engine oil level and see if it's HIGH. Also if it smells like gasoline..
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    Re: Error 33 breaking my bike abroad- urgent help please

    Do at least a compression test on the engine, a leak down test EVEN better.
    Will try to get a compression gauge and test.

    You said the engine seems like it still has FULL power?
    Didn't run it past 6000 RPM but it felt perfectly fine. I'd test it more but I'm scared I'd cause it even more severe damage.

    It is possible that running on two cylinders, with NO spark to ignite the fuel being injected into those cylinders tended to wash
    away the oil for the rings.
    I thought about that, but according to the yamaha service manual, when getting error 33 the ECM allegedly cuts injection for cylinders #1 and #4, so if that's correct there should be no piston/rings/cylinder damage...

    Check the engine oil level and see if it's HIGH. Also if it smells like gasoline..
    Didn't think about oil smell, but it was the first thing I checked and it was at the same level and still reddish (motul 7100 10W40)...

    Not sure what else to check... last resort is taking the head cover (and everything else necessary) off, only thing is that it'll take a while to get a torque ratchet and new gasket... Local dealers quoted ~3 weeks for OEM gasket...

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