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    07 fz6 cluster not working

    Hey guys new to the forum and just picked up my first fz6. Knew cluster didn't work when I bought it but need some info on where to start diagnosing the cluster. No info and no tach reading. The only things that do work are the neutral light, high beam indicator and turn signal indicators. If someone could help me get pointed in the right direction that'd be great.
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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    I don't know specifics but find a wiring diagram and grab your trusty multimeter. And good luck, electrics are the bane of my 77

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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    O yea I've got my multimeter handy just not sure as to which wires should be hot for this thing to work. I hope it's just a power/ground issue and not the whole cluster but only time will tell. Hopefully someone has a schematic handy.

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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Just found a manual, haven't had time to decipher the wiring diagram yet but does anyone have a good source for these clusters? Or does anyone know if a r6 cluster would plug and play? I've seen a lot of those on Ebay.

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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Quote Originally Posted by joshk5145 View Post
    Just found a manual, haven't had time to decipher the wiring diagram yet but does anyone have a good source for these clusters? Or does anyone know if a r6 cluster would plug and play? I've seen a lot of those on Ebay.
    A member just put an R6 engine in his FZ6 frame and had to swap out the cluster(the FZ wouldn't work correctly). Heck, he'll have a spare cluster(not sure if its an 07 thou)-do a search..

    So I have to say no, its not compatable..

    If you check part #'s for each bike that should confirm one way or the other.

    Look in the F/S section here or post a "wanted to buy". Guys are parting out bikes all the time.

    Last but not least,
    PM Motogiro, or Finalimpact, their the electrical guys and should be able to help as well
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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Scott - just an fyi adding "@" to user name will tag us so we're notified... Example: @TownsendsFJR1300

    There was another thread recently although it didn't pop to life as I thought it would with a search, but Follow this: http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-e...er-issues.html

    And when you look at the connection from the meter to the ECM you're looking for Yellow/with Light Blue Trace carries the data for the fuel, ODO, Speed, Tach and all that. In the link above I'd just pull the fairing, it takes 10 min or less and its in your hands for thorough inspection.

    With the Tank up, battery disconnected, ECM unplugged and connector in the 2nd pic below exposed, OHM out the Yellow/light blue wire from that harness to the ECM and from the fairing harness to the meter. The value should be less than 2 ohms. If you short the meter leads together and take the reading and lets say its 0.85 ohms, subtract that value from the measured values taken on the bike.

    Ideal is likely 0.5 ohms or less using the absolute value (lead shorted subtracted out).

    Quote Originally Posted by FinalImpact View Post
    You might wonder through this - not letter for letter the same story but it sure seems closely related....

    http://www.600riders.com/forum/fz6-t...-8000-rpm.html

    - Lift the tank
    - Disconnect the battery
    - verify all connections in sight by actually taking them apart.
    - If its faired start with the connector on the bottom left of fairing.
    - Remove the connector at the cluster and inspect it for, corrosion, pushed out pins, burns, broken wires, not fully seated.
    - At the ECU repeat the connector removal and inspection.


    Fairing connector left side...



    ECU is in the middle with all the wires. Also notice inside that boot is a group too.


    Let us know what you find....
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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Randy,

    I wasn't aware of that "@" and your usually on top of mosts posts (especially these types) but thanks, I'll try to remember it
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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Anyway - all of the items that DO WORK are just hard wired LEDs. The Yellow/light blue trace wire is a serial data buss. So it carries ALL the information for the analog and digital displays in the gauge cluster. Because the other signals work, I suspect the single wire is at fault. But it could go deeper into the electronics and be the ECM or the gauge unit itself.

    While your there perform a thorough inspection of all the connectors to confirm they are not at fault.

    You might also check the "Backup" fuse in the right side pod. It supplies power from the battery to keep the clock function running. I'm not sure how critical it it to the overall operation of the gauge.

    Other Critical wires to check at the gauge:
    R/W (Red w/White trace) = power
    B/W (Black w/White trace) = ground to the ECM. Follow to ECM.
    R/Y (Red w/Yellow trace) = back ground light. This is powered be R/W.
    Y/L (Yellow w/Light Blue trace) = data from ECM to Gauge

    VERY import question, Does background illuminate in the gauge lighting work? If it does, you have POWER TO THE BRANCH FEEDING THE GAUGE, but still need to verify R/W at the gauge plug-in has power with key on.

    Something I didn't think about; if your meter shows signs of moisture inside, you might just throw it in a bag O rice for a few days to extract the moisture.

    Just a thought - ^^


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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Thanks so much for the responses! I seriously can't thank you enough. The back light does not work on my gauge. Hopefully I'll have a little daylight to burn when I get off of work tomorrow to check it out. You guys are awesome

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    Re: 07 fz6 cluster not working

    Sounds like it lost power. Start by reseating the plug at the gauge. If no help, remove inner fairing and gauge connection, inspect connections and if there are no obvious signs of corrosion, pushed pins, melting, burning, turn the key on and check the R/W for power i.e. battery voltage (12 ~13v). Let us know what you find...
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